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Old 11-01-2008, 04:40 PM
 
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Was it global or just that immediate area (Eastern Mediterranen Sea) that got flooded.

The modern stories imply it was global. If thats the case how did the animals (many as yet undiscovered and we are still discovering new species today) from as yet undiscovered parts of the world (not to mention the native people's) get to that area of the world in time and without perishing on the way?

Its easier to believe if it was just that immediate area where Noah happened to live.

Oh yeah, there's no historical records from the other civilzations/empires/tribes at that time of a lethal flood that ravaged their empires at that timeframe. Thats the sorta thing they'd have remembered and wrote down. Getting your empires destroyed sorta sticks in your head. In particular the more distant countries have no record of it. This sorta supports the theory that the Great Flood wasn't global.

So I'm just confused.
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Old 11-01-2008, 04:59 PM
 
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Was it global or just that immediate area (Eastern Mediterranen Sea) that got flooded.
Global

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The modern stories imply it was global. If thats the case how did the animals (many as yet undiscovered and we are still discovering new species today) from as yet undiscovered parts of the world (not to mention the native people's) get to that area of the world in time and without perishing on the way?
God can still make animals...
Everyone died but the family of Noah...

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Its easier to believe if it was just that immediate area where Noah happened to live.
May be easier, doesn't make it so.

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Oh yeah, there's no historical records from the other civilzations/empires/tribes at that time of a lethal flood that ravaged their empires at that timeframe.
How do dead people keep a record?

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Thats the sorta thing they'd have remembered and wrote down.
Not if they died.

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Getting your empires destroyed sorta sticks in your head. In particular the more distant countries have no record of it. This sorta supports the theory that the Great Flood wasn't global.
It actually supports that it was global, the only record found was from the only family that lived through it.

godspeed,

freedom

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Old 11-01-2008, 05:12 PM
 
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God can still make animals...
Everyone died but the family of Noah...


May be easier, doesn't make it so.



How do dead people keep a record?


Not if they died.



It actually supports that it was global, the only record found was from the only family that lived through it.

godspeed,

freedom

So I'm just confused.
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They didn't die. That's why I'm saying those civilizations never recorded the incident. They had records BEFORE the Flood and records AFTER the Flood, but no records of any massive flood lasting 40-days during the time it was supposed to be taking place.

God just 'poof' made more lions and penguins? out of thin air?

Your saying everyone died. So we're all related to Noah?

It doesn't matter how illogical and hard to beleive it is? If the Bible says it, it "must" be? wow. Now thats what I call a blind faith. Hard to rationalize with someone like that No offence.
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Old 11-01-2008, 05:37 PM
 
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Oops...No flood in China! Also first nations people have lived in the Americas for more than 10,000 years, so I guess they also survived.
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Old 11-01-2008, 06:01 PM
 
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Oops...No flood in China! Also first nations people have lived in the Americas for more than 10,000 years, so I guess they also survived.
You must get your facts correct. And every society on earth has a tradition of a catastrophic flood.
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Old 11-01-2008, 06:24 PM
 
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They didn't die. That's why I'm saying those civilizations never recorded the incident. They had records BEFORE the Flood and records AFTER the Flood, but no records of any massive flood lasting 40-days during the time it was supposed to be taking place.
Nope... they didn't... do you know the yr. the flood took place?

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God just 'poof' made more lions and penguins? out of thin air?
Do you think He forgot how? Do you think He ever stopped creating?

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Your saying everyone died. So we're all related to Noah?
Yep!

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It doesn't matter how illogical and hard to beleive it is? If the Bible says it, it "must" be? wow. Now thats what I call a blind faith. Hard to rationalize with someone like that No offence.
Supernatural does not conform to earthly manmade logic.... It is beyond man's logic... that's why its supernatural...
Faith is far from blind... it is what allows one to see.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 11-01-2008, 06:29 PM
 
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Supernatural does not conform to earthly manmade logic.... It is beyond man's logic... that's why its supernatural...
Faith is far from blind... it is what allows one to see.
godspeed,

freedom

Well said, Freedom!
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Old 11-01-2008, 06:41 PM
 
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I will explain my beliefs in a non-religious way.

Just about every culture on Earth has a story of a flood of mythological proportions. That being said, my theory is that this "great flood" carried survivors to other parts of the world otherwise inaccessible (North America). Artifacts confirm that there were in fact human beings in North America prior to the migrations of 10,000 BC. Perhaps Earth's inhabitants did in fact see what was coming, and to be honest, a great flood could be caused by a number of things such as a comet or large asteroid with a strong enough gravitational pull passing too close, or a rare moon cycle.

So, there is a scientific explanation for what the Bible tells. I personally don't believe there would have been a large "ark" or single ship, but instead primitive humans found other ways to survive. The same could be said for animals, certainly their instincts would tell them to head for the highest ground, mountaintops or otherwise.
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Old 11-01-2008, 06:41 PM
 
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Sorry, Noah's Ark was not a global flood. It may not even have been a real event on a smaller scale. Regional flooding is plausible, but elements of a global flood and Noah living hundreds of years and building an ark are ridiculous.

Humans didn't even know what global was, to state a global flood. North and South America, Antarctica and perhaps Australia weren't even known. How would they know what global meant?

Animals did not traverse across continents to climb onboard an Ark, and the idea that "god created new animals after" is elementary school entertainment.

Noah's Ark is an amusing little tale, but not one to take seriously. The scientific record does not support a global flood, and Creationists who are making this claim have not proven their case. (Along with other Creationist claims.)

The only people who believe this literally are drinking the Holy Gatorade.
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Old 11-01-2008, 07:00 PM
 
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I will explain my beliefs in a non-religious way.

Just about every culture on Earth has a story of a flood of mythological proportions. That being said, my theory is that this "great flood" carried survivors to other parts of the world otherwise inaccessible (North America). Artifacts confirm that there were in fact human beings in North America prior to the migrations of 10,000 BC. Perhaps Earth's inhabitants did in fact see what was coming, and to be honest, a great flood could be caused by a number of things such as a comet or large asteroid with a strong enough gravitational pull passing too close, or a rare moon cycle.

So, there is a scientific explanation for what the Bible tells. I personally don't believe there would have been a large "ark" or single ship, but instead primitive humans found other ways to survive. The same could be said for animals, certainly their instincts would tell them to head for the highest ground, mountaintops or otherwise.
Actually there is more than enough scientific study and proof of a global flood and global extinction of animals and plant life.

As well as proof that the continents were all one.

godspeed,

freedom
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