Do any of you believe the Biblical Joseph was in Egypt? (grace, myths)

[Dave5150]

Ahhh. See this is why I ask. I was thinking New testament.

[LuminousTruth]

I believe the story of Joseph is a fabrication to hide the fact that the Jews were the Hyksos (shepherds) that invaded Egypt and were then expelled.

[MasterChief]

Originally Posted by LuminousTruth

I believe the story of Joseph is a fabrication to hide the fact that the Jews were the Hyksos (shepherds) that invaded Egypt and were then expelled.

Your evidence for that is what? Just your own theory?

[MasterChief]

Originally Posted by Dave5150

Ahhh. See this is why I ask. I was thinking New testament.

Honestly...if you haven't read it, I encourage you to....it's an entertaining and interesting story.

[InsaneInDaMembrane]

Originally Posted by Eusebius

I am curious if any of you believe the Biblical Joseph, the son of Jacob (AKA Israel) was in Egypt?

Is lack of evidence proof he never was in Egypt and that the writers of the Bible just made up the story of Joseph being a leader in Egypt?

Where are you going with this or where is this question coming from?

[Eusebius]

I would like to know people's reasons why they believe the story of Joseph, Jacob's son, in Egypt was just fabricated.

I've been told over and over that the flood story of Noah's day was fiction and so was wondering if posters here believe the Joseph story rising to power in Egypt in a time of great famine, prior to Israel being in Egypt 400+ years was just made up.

[ancient warrior]

[quote=MasterChief;23914572]Yes. I believe he was. How much real evidence is there for any Prime Minister of Egypt?

But since you asked: Joseph's Tomb - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I would encourage you to use Google. It is a helpful tool.[/quote

RESPONSE:

Yes. Let's look a little more closely at what Wikipedia has to say:

Archaeology

"A century of research by archaeologists and Egyptologists has found no evidence which can be directly related to the Exodus captivity and the escape and travels through the wilderness and most archaeologists have abandoned the archaeological investigation of Moses and the Exodus as "a fruitless pursuit"."

The Exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


I believe the Bible claims there were 800,000 Hebrew soldiers at the time of the Exodus. This would translate into a population of about 2.3 million counting all the men not soldiers, the women, and the children.

According to the Bible the Jews were captives in Egypt for 400 years and they spent 40 years in the desert. And yet they didn't leave any archeological footprint in either place.

What might one reasonably conclude?

[LuminousTruth]

Originally Posted by MasterChief

Your evidence for that is what? Just your own theory?

Well, for one The Jews are never mentioned in the great Egyptian records... the invasion by the Hyksos was.

The Hyksos began an iconoclast, because of their great intolerance...

mostly just a hunch

[MasterChief]

Originally Posted by LuminousTruth

Well, for one The Jews are never mentioned in the great Egyptian records... the invasion by the Hyksos was.

The Hyksos began an iconoclast, because of their great intolerance...

mostly just a hunch

I can see how a great revolt of the slaves would be something that a Pharoah wouldn't want recorded...

[ancient warrior]

Originally Posted by MasterChief

I can see how a great revolt of the slaves would be something that a Pharoah wouldn't want recorded...

RESPONSE:

But it would have been. One doesn't lose one fifth to a third of one's population and prevent it being noticed or remembered. Or at least leaving some archeological trace behind.

One has to learn to separate folklore from history.