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Old 11-16-2012, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Yea right.

It is militant atheism at its best. Listening to and reading some of the postings of atheists here and elsewhere some would like nothing more to classify theism as a form of mental illness and lock up 90% of the world's population.

What did Marx say about religion? It was a bad thing and needed to be destroyed.

I think the word "apologist" fits in regards to your post. Plus the speed with which you used to say "nothing to see here".

Boy! twice wrong in a half hour. A C-D record to say the least.
What does Marx have to do with Atheism? Serious answer please.

Communism has nothing to do with atheism.

Lots of theists fear religion. It was a big theme in my childhood church. Plenty of theists on this site, state that they despise religion.
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:11 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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If he had been a Christian he wouldn't have done it. Christians don't do that stuff. But in the absence of a belief in God, life is devalued. Hence, we get guys like Stalin.
Stalin was Stalin he represents no one or any group except himself.

We do not get terrorists/despots/dictators because they are Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Jews etc. We get them because they are what they are through their own choices. They come from all belief and non-belief systems. They will find justification for their actions no matter what their belief teaches.

I really doubt if the percentage of potential despots will differ in any belief system. the only things that a potential despot needs to be an active one is the opportunity to be one. Some of the breeding grounds for a Dictator to emerge are Poverty, social inequality, Wars, etc
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:12 AM
 
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Because he was greedy. All leaders are greedy by nature and greed leads people to do bad things.

But Christians are not innocent either. Christians have blood on their hands too.
I mean why did Christians murder 6 million Jews in the Holocaust if they are innocent? Believe it or not Hitler was a Christian.
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:46 AM
 
Location: New York City
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If he had been a Christian he wouldn't have done it. Christians don't do that stuff.
Someone needs to brush up on their history.

Then again, if he was, he might not have blown up churches, but if there was a mosque or Hindu temple and the adherents posed a threat to his supremacy...
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:46 AM
 
Location: New York metropolitan area
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Stalin didn't just kill christians. He killed anyone that disagreed with him. He did so because he was a dictator and a psychopath, not because he was an atheist. Atheism had nothing to do with why Stalin did what he did. Stalin is an example of what happens when a dictator is in power, not what happens when an atheist takes power.
How come all dictators and communist countries are atheists? Sorry, but Buddhism is basically same as Atheism because Buddhists and their founder (Buddha) did not believe in God.
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:49 AM
 
Location: New York metropolitan area
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Because he was greedy. All leaders are greedy by nature and greed leads people to do bad things.

But Christians are not innocent either. Christians have blood on their hands too.
I mean why did Christians murder 6 million Jews in the Holocaust if they are innocent? Believe it or not Hitler was a Christian.
Why were early Christians persecuted and stoned to death by Jews and Romans?
Why were tens of millions of Christians murdered under Soviet Unions state atheism?
Why are Christian minorities in many Islamic countries killed, and churches being destroyed?

Hitler was half Jewish and half Christian, but later rejected his faith and became an atheist.
Yes, many Nazi's were Christians, but not all of them. They had to agree with Hitler, otherwise they would have been killed too. That's why millions of non-Jews (Including Christians) who did not agree with them were killed.
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:08 AM
 
Location: New York City
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How come all dictators and communist countries are atheists? Sorry, but Buddhism is basically same as Atheism because Buddhists and their founder (Buddha) did not believe in God.
YOUR version/concept of "god" I take it?
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Because religions were competition for his cult of personality. The idea that communists committed atrocities in the name of atheism is absurd. They did it in the name of their cult of personalities. They were monsters who wanted to become gods, or as close as they could in one lifetime.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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People who are perverted by power will be perverted by power whether they be atheist, Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, etc.

The very fact that we have good moral people from all religious groups (and non-religious groups) shows that a belief system won't necessarily make monsters of men. To suggest otherwise is to demonize recklessly and dangerously.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:02 PM
 
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People who are perverted by power will be perverted by power whether they be atheist, Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, etc.

The very fact that we have good moral people from all religious groups (and non-religious groups) shows that a belief system won't necessarily make monsters of men. To suggest otherwise is to demonize recklessly and dangerously.
Good statement. We can't blame religion for the woes of the world. We can blame people.

Of course, Christianity addresses that very issue, in that it changes a person's nature. It addresses the issue of sin in a person's heart. Not everyone that walks in to a Christian church actually trusts Christ and is changed...but some do.
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