Why did Stalin murder millions of Christians & destroy churches?! (salvation, priests)
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but the great irony is that the German Church actually supported Hitler!
how do you explain that one?
What most of you do not realize is that Hitler was actually a very educated, smart, and gave good speeches to the people that most Germans liked him, and selected him to hold the power.
However, since what he has done to millions of Europeans (Including the Jews, Romans, Gays, Mentally ill, etc.) his reputation has been ruined.
German Church supported all German people. However, they were forced to support him, otherwise they would have been killed too. Thousands of priests and bishops were killed by the Nazi's.
Jews used to stone early Christians for believe in Christ; So are you to blame all Jews today for the evil things they have done? I don't think so.
When did the German, Catholic and Vatican churches ever publicly denounce Hitler and Mussolini?
Well Hitler died, and so did the Nazi party, and everything was over.
Mussolini, just like Hitler, were raised "Christians" but rejected their faith, hated it, and become atheists.
Mussolini's mother was religious Catholic, while his father was a non-believer, and never attended church.
The difference is that Hitler became an atheist when he got into power. He rejected his Judeo-Christian faith, and murdered millions of Christians too (especially those who disagreed with him).
Hitler became an atheist when he invaded atheist Russia?
Did Hitler become an atheist when he said Secular schools could never be tolerated because they were a scape-goat for the irreligious?
Did Hitler become an atheist when he sent atheists to the gas chambers?
Did Hitler become an atheist when he supported "God with Us" as the Nazi slogan on their belt buckles?
Did Hitler become an atheist when he banned the legitimacy and legality of atheist and free-thought organizations?
Did Hitler become an atheist when he wrote in his autobiography "My Struggle" that his conduct was in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator?
Did Hitler become an atheist when he continually said he was following God's divine mandate?
Did Hitler become an atheist when the Mormon Church posthumously baptized him?
Did Hitler become an atheist when he was Baptized by the Catholic Church in infancy?
Did Hitler become an atheist when the Lutherans voted for him in greater number than the Catholics?
Did Hitler become an atheist when he gave ample gifts to the Methodists churches that supported him?
Did Hitler become an atheist when many Baptist Churches shouted "Heil Hitler!" at the top of their lungs?
Did Hitler become an atheist when he founded the Protestant Reich Church?
Did Hitler become an atheist when a rumor went around that he became a Protestant member of the German Christians?
Did Hitler become an atheist when he is quoted as saying he wished the German people had a less flimsy religious tradition than the common Christianity, something more like State Shinto or Islam?
Did Hitler become an atheist when one of his inner circle, Goebbels, called him "deeply religious although entirely anti-Christian" (in the sense of being against Paul's scriptures)?
Did Hitler become an atheist when, according to Goebbels' diaries, he believed in Jesus as a fighter against Jewry, when he stated that "the Galilean [Jesus] intended something quiet different" (from Paul's corruption which was 20th century Christianity)?
Did Hitler become an atheist when, according to a British correspondent, he stated that a mysterious voice had saved him from death during WWI?
Did Hitler become an atheist when, according to his personal photographer, the Catholic priest Stempfle was in his inner circle advising him on religious issues?
Did Hitler become an atheist when he gave a public speech on how and why the German people should "burn out" atheism through ending its freedom of speech?
Did Hitler become an atheist when he stated in one radio address that the Nazis had "put an end to denial of God and abuse of religion"?
Did Hitler become an atheist after this statement: "We have been thoroughly convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out!" ?
Did Hitler become an atheist when he spoke of the "spiritual sustenance" that religious figures provided?
It goes on an on and on...
Last edited by LuminousTruth; 11-19-2012 at 09:15 PM..
Well Hitler died, and so did the Nazi party, and everything was over.
Mussolini, just like Hitler, were raised "Christians" but rejected their faith, hated it, and become atheists.
Mussolini's mother was religious Catholic, while his father was a non-believer, and never attended church.
Methinks I really have run out of things to say on this sub. Adios, mon aeeezz. To the Christians, have the best life you can muster outa the mess you're in!
Why is a Catholic obliged to vote for the parliamentary list of Adolf Hitler? Because in the National Socialist state intrinsically and through the Reichskonkordat
1. The Faith is protected,
2. Peace with the Church is assured,
3. Public morality is preserved,
4. Sunday is hallowed,
5. Catholic schools are maintained,
6. The Catholic conscience is no longer burdened,
7. A Catholic has equal rights before the law and in the life of the nation,
8. Catholic organisations and associations, insofar as they exclusively serve religious, charitable and cultural purposes, can operate freely.
Therefore a Catholic is obliged on 12 November [1933] to vote thus:
Referendum: yes
Parliamentary election: Adolf Hitler
Catholic religious education in elementary, vocational, secondary schools and institutions of higher learning is a regular school subject, and is to be taught in accordance with the principles of the Catholic Church. In religious education, special emphasis will be given to inculcating a patriotic, civic and social sense of duty in the spirit of the Christian faith and the moral code, just as happens in all other subjects. The curriculum and the selection of textbooks for religious education will be arranged in agreement with the Church authorities. The opportunity will be given to the Church authorities to check, with the agreement of the school authorities, whether the pupils receive religious education in accordance with the teachings and specifications of the Church.
No, 98% of the presidents were Christians, and one or two were Deists.
Nobody know what the Presidents felt inside themselves. So far, most have considered it politically necessary to proclaim their Christianity.
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Actually it is the atheists that are jealous by us Christians, because we are smart and educated, and have successfully being able to run for president. Without any Christians, you wouldn't be living in freedom here in the U.S. Too bad people like you do not appreciate it.
That's absolutely contrary to everything the atheist posters in this forum say, as well as being at odds with published research about religion and IQ relationships. Like I said above, we don't really know how some Presidents really felt about religion; only what they said publicly.
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Sorry, but we do not need any atheists holding public office. This country was founded upon Christian beliefs, principals, and culture ever since the foundation, and even before the colonies.
Even if it wasn't, it's hard to trust atheists becoming in the congress, holding public offices, and running for president due to the past and present history.
Pure garbage! The US positively, absolutely, was NOT founded on Christian belief and principles. From the 1st Amendment to the writings of Jefferson and Madison as well as to the Treaty of Tripoli, it is well documented that a secular government was established. BTW, you've had atheists holding office many times. You just don't hear them announce it. You probably trusted them too.
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Yes, In God We Trust, and we're proud of holding that national motto. It should be extended and be put on all credit cards, police cars, fire trucks, all public buildings, public schools, and everywhere.
Until the mid 19th Century, "e pluribus unim" was the only motto printed on currency. Now, why should the federal government be legislating what credit cards issued by private companies need to look like? BTW, the UNITED STATES Supreme Court allows "In God We Trust," not as a religious statement, but just as a "feel good" slogan. You don't have to believe me. Go look up Supreme Court case law. In spite of your OPINION, not everyone is proud of that motto.
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God has protected us for the most part, however since atheists have tried to remove God from the public, removed prayer from public schools, etc., this nation has been messed up and went down.
Many people, including some atheist organizations and the ACLU, place a high value on the rule of law and adherence to the Constitution. Obviously, you don't. I suppose that means we can't trust you to follow any other laws either.
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If you truly read the Bible (Which I assume you did not), you will clearly see that God told us that end of the world is coming, and sometimes we will see bad things happening, and not only good things in the world, and in our lives. Those who truly believe in God from their heart, He will protect us in many ways, but we may still encounter bad things because of our sins.
None of this is relevant to anything else you said about wanting to change history and the US Constitution.
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