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It must boggle your mind and give you cold sweats that a believer in Jesus can have libertarian views.
Not at all. I have many friends who are theist libertarians. The two aren't mutually exclusive. I also know some who CLAIM to be libertarians but who supports forcing their religion on others via the government.
Words have meanings. Is it you or Seeker who are twisting them to mean something contrary
Just in the interests of clarification, there are two "Seekers" taking part in this discussion. Seeker5in1 (yours truly) is what many would describe as a"fudamentalist" Christian. SeekerSA is the other and seems to be an agnostic.
Just in the interests of clarification, there are two "Seekers" taking part in this discussion. Seeker5in1 (yours truly) is what many would describe as a"fudamentalist" Christian. SeekerSA is the other and seems to be an agnostic.
You shall have to defer to moi, been here since 2008 and if you click the lil arrow in the quote, it returns to the post being quoted and so on.
An overwhelming majority of people under 30 are atheist/agnostic. If you are young and Christian you pretty much have to keep it to yourself if you want to be accepted by your peers that have little tolerance for religion, especially Christianity which is seen as the cause of most of America's problems.
It's a pity if people get given a hard time over their religion, but then, they can always keep quiet about it - like atheists used to, and still do in some parts.
Thank God, so to speak, for the Internet, huh? Think on, fellow citizens! It's only a matter of a few more decades until Christianity fails and topples worldwide.
If there is any justice, then it could happen a lot sooner than that - at least in the developed nations.
I think massive numbers of people could come to realize how silly and ridiculous supernatural beliefs are and religion will simply be viewed much like astrology is today.
Put this up a little while back...applicable here too:
You wanna know the future of religion? Sure...I can give you that information.
Religion has lost some ground, in a few places...and again, IMO that's a good thing because I'd prefer it didn't exist at all...but I'm not going to fool myself. It's gaining more in other places (like China) than the amount it is losing in others. In fact...if China gets a big "religion bug" (and that's the way it's looking)...it will be a bigtime net gain for religion on a worldwide basis in the near future: In The Land Of Mao, A Rising Tide Of Christianity Among Chinese : NPR
Anyone can say whatever they want...BUT...the REAL DEAL...at least for quite the foreseeable future: The only REAL threat to religion is a big asteroid hitting and wiping man from the face of the earth. Otherwise, it will continue to dominate like it has for thousands of years. And now that China...with a full 20% of the world population...has started to jump on religion bandwagon...it will become stronger than it's ever been.
Anyone that doesn't like that? Better stock up on Kleenex to sop up your tears, cuz you won't change it. MOF the more you fight it, the stronger it will get. Religion based organizations and religious people take great exception to being challenged, and it just strengthens their resolve.
If anyone thinks they can actually do something about that: I suggest finding the next F5 tornado...stand directly in its path, and throw punches at it to stop it--You'll get further and accomplish much more doing that than you will trying to stop religion or its embrace by the vaaaaaaast majority of people.
There are several fallacies in the original message. First, it assumes that "Christian" equals "religious" and "going to church" equals "Christian" and, since equality is transitive, "Christian" equals "religious". All the worship systems that are christless and churchless are hereby dismissed, and that includes popular creeds like iPadism/iPhonism with embracing pan-Appletude, Linuxism, celebrietism, consumerism, Buddhism, Taoism and many many more. Take a look at a crowd of iPhonists storming their place of worship (an Apple store), compare to Christians walking to their church.
Another fallacy is that the motion from religious to non-religious is linear. But it's not. It can go sideways, it can go in circles, it can fork and merge. Atheism was quite popular in ancient Greece as it was in ancient Roma, and look what happened to that. Individuals as well as whole civilizations can go in circles, following the stuff learned and conclusions made. Extrapolating any trend without taking all things considered into account can and does lead to rude awakening
The video presented in the original message, it's all about how Christian clergy can handle their failed faith. One solution offered, which is by far not the only option available.
Will we ever be 100% atheist? Unlikely. Human mind has to stick to some solid foundation to build the rest of conscience on, but a base based on a negative, such as "there is no supernatural being who created the Universe" is not something you can lean on. It's a negative. You dismiss this notion, but then what you got?
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