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I think the general evangelical rejoinder would be that Satan was appealing to Jesus' human weaknesses and appetites. That god made himself vulnerable to temptation by becoming incarnate as a human. Satan essentially saw attempting to corrupt Jesus as a rare opening in his opponent's defenses.
The bigger question to me is why god would create his own opponent, leave him in place, etc.
Yes, the larger question trumps the internal details, but within those internal details, Jesus the human would only be tempted if he was unaware that he was also god. If he was aware that he was god, then he knew in advance that the devil would try this temptation, and knew in advance that he would refuse it, so it never had a chance, did it?
And if we try to argue that Jesus wasn't aware that he was god, then we have the omniscience contradiction we were discussing in the other thread. How could an all aware, all knowing god conceal information from itself?
Yes, the larger question trumps the internal details, but within those internal details, Jesus the human would only be tempted if he was unaware that he was also god. If he was aware that he was god, then he knew in advance that the devil would try this temptation, and knew in advance that he would refuse it, so it never had a chance, did it?
And if we try to argue that Jesus wasn't aware that he was god, then we have the omniscience contradiction we were discussing in the other thread. How could an all aware, all knowing god conceal information from itself?
Maybe the story just wasn't that well written to begin with.
The fact that you think the written word is the "word" of God means that you don't have it in your heart. Your mind is what makes you think that the Bible is the true word. Either your mind or your trust in the church.
My trust is not in the church, but in God alone.
I don't think that at all, I'm an atheist. You are correct in the part about me not having it in my heart, but I don't embrace the dogma either.
My point was that if you are structuring your religious beliefs on the basis of what you feel in your heart, then what you have is a unique religion, Ozzyism or whatever one might call it. I would add that you are unlikely to persuade others that you are capable of making cosmic determinations on the basis of heartfelt emotions.
This thread is nonsensical speculation. Yet you ask me for proof? The Bible is as good a source (or better) than anything else put forth.
Of course I ask, why wouldn't anyone ask? Why should anyone believe this on the basis of your assertion only?
You make these assertions of supposed truth, you are asked for the reasons why we should believe them, and your response is to get angry.
Is this because you don't have any persuasive reasons?
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