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Old 10-18-2017, 07:34 AM
 
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Nope. I haven't. But I am growing tired of certain folks on here mocking, insulting, attacking Christians personally whenever we post. You disagree with me? OK...great. We can disagree. But please try to do it in a civil manner.
When do you plan to stop your attacks on atheists, homosexuals, and members of other religions? You and other fundies say the most vile and hateful things about people all the time.

I have seen multiple posts from you where you call gay people that you have never met immoral sinners that deserve to be punished for all eternity. Is that what you consider civil and respectful discussion?

Maybe you should heed your own advice sometime.
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Old 10-18-2017, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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When do you plan to stop your attacks on atheists, homosexuals, and members of other religions? You and other fundies say the most vile and hateful things about people all the time.

I have seen multiple posts from you where you call gay people that you have never met immoral sinners that deserve to be punished for all eternity. Is that what you consider civil and respectful discussion?

Maybe you should heed your own advice sometime.
Why do you expect when they sing songs like this:

  1. Onward, Christian soldiers!
    Marching as to war...
    Leads against the foe; Forward into battle,
  2. Like a mighty army
    ...One in doctrine,
It's a very violent group.
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Old 10-18-2017, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Because there is an Old Testament that reflects a blood thirsty, narcissistic god.
LOL, another Messiah hater.
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Old 10-18-2017, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Federal court rules World War I memorial cross must be torn down | Fox News


I just don't get why this thing is offensive, it is one hundred years old and loved by many people, I think people have lost they minds.
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Old 10-18-2017, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Federal court rules World War I memorial cross must be torn down | Fox News


I just don't get why this thing is offensive, it is one hundred years old and loved by many people, I think people have lost they minds.
Well, from my perspective, you're half right.

I don't agree with the court order. But, I do believe in our court system.

Here's where I don't agree with you. I used to live about 4 miles from the Peace Cross. Honest-to-goodness, if you stopped 100 people who lived within 1/4 mile of this cross and asked them what it was about, I doubt that even 5% would have any idea. So to me, this is another example of people clinging to history with absolutely no background in the actual history. The cross has become nothing more than a pawn in the culture wars.



BTW, here's the opposing view from the source: https://thehumanist.com/news/nationa...-40-foot-cross
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Old 10-18-2017, 11:51 AM
 
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Why do you expect when they sing songs like this:

  1. Onward, Christian soldiers!
    Marching as to war...
    Leads against the foe; Forward into battle,
  2. Like a mighty army
    ...One in doctrine,
It's a very violent group.
Oh Brother. Let me guess....you think Jesus wrote that song? You think the song ACTUALLY talks about war?

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Old 10-18-2017, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Oh Brother. Let me guess....you think Jesus wrote that song? You think the song ACTUALLY talks about war?
Of course not. But it sure has Christian optics. Fight, conquer. Fits in so nicely with things like the Inquisition and conquering of other peoples and nations who are not Christians.
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Old 10-18-2017, 11:53 AM
 
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When do you plan to stop your attacks on atheists, homosexuals, and members of other religions?
I've never attacked an atheist, homosexual, or member of another religion.
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You and other fundies say the most vile and hateful things about people all the time.
That, in itself, is a hateful statement. But you don't even realize that, do you?
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I have seen multiple posts from you where you call gay people that you have never met immoral sinners that deserve to be punished for all eternity. Is that what you consider civil and respectful discussion?

Maybe you should heed your own advice sometime.
I have? Really? Can you show me some of those quotes?
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Old 10-18-2017, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Nanaimo, Canada
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I've never attacked an atheist, homosexual, or member of another religion.
I can show you one stealth attack post:

From 'Christianity the most expansionist religion ever':

Torpan posted:

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No other religion have spread so far and wide trough military force and conquest as christianity has world wide.
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Except secular atheism. And Islam.

Oh, and let's not forget this gem:

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You have an opinion. She has an opinion. You seem to say her opinion doesn't matter, but expect others to believe you. Weird. You're ironically intolerant of other people.
When, in the 'Clergy House Rules' thread, you posted this:

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Thankfully your opinion is of little consequence in this issue.
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Old 10-18-2017, 01:32 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Oh Brother. Let me guess....you think Jesus wrote that song? You think the song ACTUALLY talks about war?
You are right. It is illegal use of a Strawman argument on your part to a point that wasn't a strawman argument. The point is really that Christianity has (or had ibn the past and can have again - very easily) very militaristic overtones. You response was a strawman in that you said this wasn't what Jesus said. In fact he comes damn close,

"I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled
!"(Luke 12.49)

and, while you can argue that, while, the hymn used militaristic imagery, it isn't actually approving of war, but, you can't accuse it of being a strawman and then use a strawman to attack it.

You need a quick primer in logical fallacy.
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