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Old 04-07-2016, 04:23 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Just a reminder, folks. This is the topic of this thread.

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Hello Everyone,

So, I wanted to create a thread in order to dispel a couple myths about atheism.

1. Atheism is not a belief or lifestyle and can not be treated like a belief or lifestyle.

2. It follows that belief-based and lifestyle-based decisions made by an atheist are not pursuant to atheism.


I am making this thread because I've seen a ridiculously high number of theists saying things like "Atheism is a faith in no God" and making claims against atheism as though it were a violent, hypocritical belief set.
An atheist could be a violent, genocide supporting warlord or an atheist could be a pacifist who likes gardening and donating to poor children. Neither lifestyle is because the person is an atheist.

If you're an atheist, I'd be obliged to hear your thoughts on this.
If you're a theist and disagree, please provide a detailed explanation.
I'm sure there are some math geeks that are fascinated with odds and probabilities, but it appears to have little to do with the subject on the table. Please try to get close to the topic.
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Old 04-07-2016, 04:30 AM
 
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atheism is a belief and belief is bayesian probability

how is that not on topic
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Old 04-07-2016, 05:17 AM
 
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atheism is a belief and belief is bayesian probability

how is that not on topic



Basic atheism is a disbelief in something , not a belief against something . You seem incapable of grasping the difference .


Hitchens was often labeled an antitheist because he argued against Christianity so vociferously . And that can accurately be labeled a belief .

But not atheism , which is merely a lack of belief . In case you don't realize it , the letter a , when used in Greek , simply means without , not against .
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Old 04-07-2016, 05:21 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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atheism is a belief ....
No it isn't and you have been told enough times that it isn't.
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Old 04-07-2016, 05:37 AM
 
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You believe that it is very unlikely that God exists but that isn't a belief?
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Old 04-07-2016, 05:44 AM
 
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You believe that it is very unlikely that God exists but that isn't a belief?
I can hold the belief that gods are unlikely but that isn't what makes me atheist.
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Old 04-07-2016, 06:17 AM
 
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You believe that it is very unlikely that God exists but that isn't a belief?
A belief in what ? Define it out .
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Old 04-07-2016, 06:22 AM
 
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You believe that it is very unlikely that God exists but that isn't a belief?
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Old 04-07-2016, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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You believe that it is very unlikely that God exists but that isn't a belief?
Why don't you learn to use the quote function? That will give people a clue as to whom you are addressing.

As to your question. I have NO BELIEF in the existence of gods. I DO NOT believe that gods exist. What don't you understand about that...or are you just trolling?
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Old 04-07-2016, 06:32 AM
 
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You believe that it is very unlikely that God exists but that isn't a belief?



A belief in the unlikelihood of God based on current evidence is merely disbelief. Why insist on making it more complicated than that with ridiculous arguments about probability ?
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