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Old 04-08-2016, 01:10 PM
 
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I don't claim to know God's thinking thought for thought. I do know what he himself has said, though. It's written down in a collection of 66 books. Even you claim to know that -- since you referenced the Bible. Now read the rest of it.
God didn't write a single word himself.
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:18 PM
 
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God didn't write a single word himself.
He inspired it. Scripture is said to be "God-breathed". Scripture says no prophet ever wrote his OWN message, but was carried along by the SPirit of God.
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:23 PM
 
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He inspired it. Scripture is said to be "God-breathed". Scripture says no prophet ever wrote his OWN message, but was carried along by the SPirit of God.
So says the men that wrote it.

I can write a book and claim that bigfoot was giving me the words through his spirit, but that doesn't make it so.

There is no way to prove that god told anyone what to write except for the writers own claims. You can't use the claim in a book that it's true to prove that the book is true.

So, in effect you are taking a writers claims about what they say god wants and then claiming that it's the opinion of god.
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:23 PM
 
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Jeff, care to try answering my questions?
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Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen bro!
And it will just be holy word salad.
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:24 PM
 
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And it will just be holy word salad.
Mmmmmm salad. I'm hungry.
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:25 PM
 
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So says the men that wrote it.
You realize that there were many different men involved, right? It wasn't just one guy and a Bic.
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I can write a book and claim that bigfoot was giving me the words through his spirit, but that doesn't make it so.
Knock yourself out.
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There is no way to prove that god told anyone what to write except for the writers own claims. You can't use the claim in a book that it's true to prove that the book is true.
If you're not willing, there is nothing I can do for you.
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So, in effect you are taking a writers claims about what they say god wants and then claiming that it's the opinion of god.
Yup. And I'm going to believe what the Biblical writers said over men today any day of the week.
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:27 PM
 
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He inspired it. Scripture is said to be "God-breathed". Scripture says no prophet ever wrote his OWN message, but was carried along by the SPirit of God.
Is that like speaking in tongues Viz?

Do you speak in tongues Viz?
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:29 PM
 
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Mmmmmm salad. I'm hungry.
Topped with creamy manna from heaven dressing.....

Oh wait, the manna from heaven factory closed down a while ago.
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:30 PM
 
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So says the men that wrote it.

I can write a book and claim that bigfoot was giving me the words through his spirit, but that doesn't make it so.

There is no way to prove that god told anyone what to write except for the writers own claims. You can't use the claim in a book that it's true to prove that the book is true.

So, in effect you are taking a writers claims about what they say god wants and then claiming that it's the opinion of god.
Sure there is. The Bible is filled with prophecies, some hundreds of years in advance that came absolutely true. Do you really think it's a mere coincidence that the tiny nation of Israel would become the focal point of world politics just like the Bible predicted?

The Bible was written by 40 authors over three continents over a period of a thousand years yet the message and tone is consistent. Explain that one. That would be like taking comparing a writer from the Roman era to a New York Times best selling author and expecting their writing style to match and align.
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:34 PM
 
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He inspired it. Scripture is said to be "God-breathed". Scripture says no prophet ever wrote his OWN message, but was carried along by the SPirit of God.
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God didn't write a single word himself.
This. I would like to know what makes the Bible so special. Its words are accepted as unerring truth by billions of people. Their reasoning is that it should be accepted as truth because God supposedly inspired believers thousands of years ago to write down their interpretation of how he wanted everyone in the world to behave. That's a reliable source of information there, and certainly one on which I'd base my entire moral code and lifestyle
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