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Old 06-11-2016, 05:31 AM
 
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...if one does not know what righteousness is?...

21 if, then, any one may cleanse himself from these, he shall be a vessel to honour, sanctified and profitable to the master--to every good work having been prepared,

22 and the youthful lusts flee thou, and pursue righteousness, faith, love, peace, with those calling upon the Lord out of a pure heart;


11 and thou, O man of God, these things flee, and pursue righteousness, piety, faith, love, endurance, meekness;

How can one pursue what one claims has been abolished?...

David called G-d's Law Righteousness...Psalms 119...

Therefore, those who pursue it are called righteous...
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Old 06-11-2016, 06:21 AM
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If you're looking for the definition of righteousness in an old book instead in the eyes of a starving child, in the detritus of a polluted estuary, in the triumph of the latest medical breakthrough, and in the majesty of the Grand Canyon, then you're never going to find it.
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Old 06-11-2016, 06:49 AM
 
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If you're looking for the definition of righteousness in an old book instead in the eyes of a starving child, in the detritus of a polluted estuary, in the triumph of the latest medical breakthrough, and in the majesty of the Grand Canyon, then you're never going to find it.
I have to say that I know a bloody good post when I see it.
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Old 06-11-2016, 09:04 AM
 
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Very easy.
Every thought you conceive, if it is bearing any moral implications, is judged by your mind of rightness and reason. Then a verdict is expressed, qualifying that thought as right - or wrong.
If thought is against the rightness, a warning will be issued to you, in form of the voice on conscience. A so well known vague understanding that what is intended is WRONG.
Then you simply have 2 choices - you discard the thought as being wrong, or against the rightness and reason or, you choose to proceed with it. Almost instantly, your justifier mind will build a "logical" construct justifying your decision to you. "everyone does this". "I saw it done by others". "article says it's OK to do". and so on.
This is, my friend, a very simple way of living the righteous life - listening to your voice of conscience every moment.
Same time, it is about the hardest way possible.
Also, many dulled that voice so much that it can barely be heard anymore.
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Old 06-11-2016, 09:26 AM
 
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...if one does not know what righteousness is?...

21 if, then, any one may cleanse himself from these, he shall be a vessel to honour, sanctified and profitable to the master--to every good work having been prepared,

22 and the youthful lusts flee thou, and pursue righteousness, faith, love, peace, with those calling upon the Lord out of a pure heart;


11 and thou, O man of God, these things flee, and pursue righteousness, piety, faith, love, endurance, meekness;

How can one pursue what one claims has been abolished?...

David called G-d's Law Righteousness...Psalms 119...

Therefore, those who pursue it are called righteous...
Yet, Solomon said in Ecc 7:20 "Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins."

If you think you're going to become righteous by good living you're mistaken. There is no one who is of pure heart.
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Old 06-11-2016, 10:00 AM
 
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Yet, Solomon said in Ecc 7:20 "Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins."

If you think you're going to become righteous by good living you're mistaken. There is no one who is of pure heart.
Among fundamentalists.

You don't speak for anyone else.
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Old 06-11-2016, 10:02 AM
 
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If you're looking for the definition of righteousness in an old book instead in the eyes of a starving child, in the detritus of a polluted estuary, in the triumph of the latest medical breakthrough, and in the majesty of the Grand Canyon, then you're never going to find it.
Oh, for Pete's Sake (not to be confused with the Japanese Rice Wine)...Gimme a break...
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Old 06-11-2016, 10:03 AM
 
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Very easy.
Every thought you conceive, if it is bearing any moral implications, is judged by your mind of rightness and reason. Then a verdict is expressed, qualifying that thought as right - or wrong.
If thought is against the rightness, a warning will be issued to you, in form of the voice on conscience. A so well known vague understanding that what is intended is WRONG.
Then you simply have 2 choices - you discard the thought as being wrong, or against the rightness and reason or, you choose to proceed with it. Almost instantly, your justifier mind will build a "logical" construct justifying your decision to you. "everyone does this". "I saw it done by others". "article says it's OK to do". and so on.
This is, my friend, a very simple way of living the righteous life - listening to your voice of conscience every moment.
Same time, it is about the hardest way possible.
Also, many dulled that voice so much that it can barely be heard anymore.
Yea...Right...How's that working out in today's world?...
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Old 06-11-2016, 10:07 AM
 
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Yet, Solomon said in Ecc 7:20 "Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins."

If you think you're going to become righteous by good living you're mistaken. There is no one who is of pure heart.
Hmmm, you seemed to have omitted everything before and after that...Solomon was addressing the need to follow the rules because there is none that do it by nature...
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Old 06-11-2016, 02:53 PM
 
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Very easy.
Every thought you conceive, if it is bearing any moral implications, is judged by your mind of rightness and reason. Then a verdict is expressed, qualifying that thought as right - or wrong.
If thought is against the rightness, a warning will be issued to you, in form of the voice on conscience. A so well known vague understanding that what is intended is WRONG.
Then you simply have 2 choices - you discard the thought as being wrong, or against the rightness and reason or, you choose to proceed with it. Almost instantly, your justifier mind will build a "logical" construct justifying your decision to you. "everyone does this". "I saw it done by others". "article says it's OK to do". and so on.
This is, my friend, a very simple way of living the righteous life - listening to your voice of conscience every moment.
Same time, it is about the hardest way possible.
Also, many dulled that voice so much that it can barely be heard anymore.
I would only add that the basis for that decision should be a concern for the well-being of everyone in the situation under consideration.

Righteousness is not in following laws, but in folloing a loving heart.
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