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Eyes shut, fingers in ears, chanting 'La -la..I'm right..you are wrong..la -la.."
Astrology is even older than that, and indeed it has such "Mojo" as our pal Goldnrule might put it that it hasn't gone away even today. But how much influence does it have on sicnce, technology, philosophy, medicine, ethics or politics? Little or none.
Antiquity proves nothing. Popular adherence to it proves nothing. Validated evidence proves to be better every time.
Your right when you tell people that they will go to hell and burn forever they are likely to fall in line.
Your right when you tell people that they will go to hell and burn forever they are likely to fall in line.
It is possible for people to grow out of, or beyond, one's childlike gullibility. If you had told me when I was about 10 years old that Frankenstein's monster was on the loose you would have had my rapt attention. By the time I was 15 I would have been merely amused at the idea. Unfortunately all too many people seem to stubbornly seek to retain their childlike gullibility their entire lives. Being proud of being iggorant is clearly NOT the way way to become successful in the 21st century.
Life miraculously began when lightning struck a "primordial soup".
A single celled bacteria eventually evolved in to what we have today, regardless of the lack of archaeological evidence to support it, lest we throw out the Cambrian era.
And never mind the finely tuned universe and all of the particulars that had to be just so in order for humans to exist and thrive. There was no intelligent force behind it all; it all just happened out of nowhere and for no particular reason.
LOL!
The modern atheist is unable to see the forest for the trees. They can't think outside of extremely narrow parameters. If they can't see it on a petri dish, then it cannot exist.
Yes you are right. All it took is a just so happens to exist out of nowhere, all knowing, all intelligent, omnipresent being who was so finely tuned - quite by chance of course - that also just happened quite by chance to have the means to defy the laws of physics and who one day after an eternity of existence, just decided to create this huge mess called the universe just so that quite by chance the conditions would be just right somewhere within that creation so that this entity could create life and man and all that is wonderful and perfect. Except that he made such a blunder that he couldn't fix (he was only all powerful remember) so he had to create an even bigger mess to destroy it all and start over again but this time using a select few but even then the mess was so great that he had to send his only son ..... ?
Oh yes, don't forget this universe was created out of nowhere from nothing (by this being who just popped into existence out of nowhere) .....
The science shows the universe had a beginning and that something that is OUTSIDE of our universe had to get it started. The atheist movement has nothing reasonable to counter the obvious truth and resort to absurd theories.
Yeah. Absurd, like, an omni-god who came from nothing and nowhere making everything, everywhere.
Well, we're here, right? You're telling me it's easier to believe that everything came from nothing than it is to believe that a higher being created us? Doesn't the fact that the universe had a beginning demonstrate to you that we have a creator?
That would be a resounding YES! Absolutely.
Explain how this 'higher being' got here? Out of nowhere, from nothing and got all this magic power to create a universe of or - wait for it - nothing? Now that is incredibly unbelievable.
You want to know how something can come from nothing? Time, space, relativity, speed of light. In a way you could say matter is made of time and space. And guess what, there is an infinite amount of both time and space. You've heard of virtual particles that pop in and out of existence all the time right? They are counterbalanced - negative and positive. The sum equals zero. You've heard of quantum mechanics right?
Well, we're here, right? You're telling me it's easier to believe that everything came from nothing than it is to believe that a higher being created us?
Yes. It's easier for me to believe that some natural circumstance(s) resulted in us, rather than believing that something Omni-Everything arose from nothing and made everything.
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Doesn't the fact that the universe had a beginning demonstrate to you that we have a creator?
You really are a crafty bugger I'll give you that. You should be a lawyer, not a pornographer. Believing comfortable lies is not the same as lying, and I suspect you know and are just looking to make yourself look important, as usual. As to the rest of your argument from a semantics and appeals to fallacies (numbers, antiquity) they have long been rebutted, and you deny iy it and keep repeating the stuff just hoping for responses just to feel important, I suspect. That's all I have to say, really. I have far mor useful apologists to argue with
Far more useful?!
Well! I never!
Oh, well.
And...God Exists...Atheism is still bogus.
Well, we're here, right? You're telling me it's easier to believe that everything came from nothing than it is to believe that a higher being created us? Doesn't the fact that the universe had a beginning demonstrate to you that we have a creator?
It has seemed obvious to people for most of history that everything has a beginning. There was a time before each of us was conceived, and then there we were, which we had not been before. But life does not simply pop into existence out of nothing at all. Humans are the product of material from our parents. As were our parents, and there's before them. All life is the result of bits of information that has existed, as far as we can tell, forever. Because life is a form of matter, which is one of the forms that energy takes, and energy can neither be created or destroyed. So while it may be true the that universe we exist in was born at the moment of the big bang, there is no reason to suppose that was a discreet beginning where nothing had existed prior, then there is to suppose that you simply popped into existence from nothing at the moment of your birth. We have no experience with something popping into existence from nothing.
What we observe is that every effect is preceded by an earlier cause without fail. The earliest cause we can interpolate is the big bang. We cannot, as yet, peer beyond the big bang with anything approaching certainty (the concept of a multiverse, while widely favored, is not yet proven). But there is no reason to suppose that the big bang wasn't simply an effect of a still earlier cause in the chain of cause and effect.
Couldn't the cause of the big bang have been a creator Being which had no first cause? Well we don't know the answer, so anything COULD be the answer. But the whole concept of a creator Being who represents a first cause when no first cause has ever been observed, has simply been imagined, declared to be true, and inserted into the question. The chances that this creator Being exists are therefore one to the infinite. In other words, we need to keep on investigating.
Far more useful?!
Well! I never!
Oh, well.
And...God Exists...Atheism is still bogus.
God certainly exists in the minds of many. It's just that you cannot establish in any way that God exists physically. A god who only exists in the imagination but not physically is not a god we really need to concern ourselves with very much.
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I'll give you that. You should be a lawyer, not a pornographer. Believing comfortable lies is not the same as lying, and I suspect you know and are just looking to make yourself look important, as usual. As to the rest of your argument from a semantics and appeals to fallacies (numbers, antiquity) they have long been rebutted, and you deny iy it and keep repeating the stuff just hoping for responses just to feel important, I suspect. That's all I have to say, really. I have far mor useful apologists to argue with 
