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Old 10-14-2017, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland area
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Do you believe in the truth and validity of that book?
The Roman Catholic Church has 1.3 billion members, and the Ethiopian Orthodox has 45-50 million members. The Catholic Church, which I happen to be a member of, recognizes the Assyrian bible, and the sacraments of the Oriental Churches, which number about 85-90 million people. I cant claim to be Catholic if i don't acknowledge and respect the Ethiopian Bible.
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Old 10-15-2017, 01:34 AM
 
Location: Birmingham
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Read the Book of Enoch in the Ethiopian Bible.
Thanks for the information.

It looks like similar imagination about the angels having sex with women as the angels visiting Abraham and eating roasted calf. Angels do not eat earthly things nor have sex with humans.

Genesis 18:8 And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat.

[Qur'an 11.69] And certainly Our messengers came to Abraham with good news. They said: Peace. Peace, said he, and he made no delay in bringing a roasted calf.

[Qur'an 11.70] But when he saw that their hands were not extended towards it, he deemed them strange and conceived fear of them. They said: Fear not, surely we are sent to Lot's people.
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Old 10-15-2017, 07:52 AM
 
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Thanks for the information.

It looks like similar imagination about the angels having sex with women as the angels visiting Abraham and eating roasted calf. Angels do not eat earthly things nor have sex with humans.

Genesis 18:8 And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat.

[Qur'an 11.69] And certainly Our messengers came to Abraham with good news. They said: Peace. Peace, said he, and he made no delay in bringing a roasted calf.

[Qur'an 11.70] But when he saw that their hands were not extended towards it, he deemed them strange and conceived fear of them. They said: Fear not, surely we are sent to Lot's people.
In the Bible, The Fallen Angels are named. One of the Leaders is named Samyaza. Do you believe their is no Angel named Samyaza?
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Old 10-15-2017, 09:30 AM
 
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Thanks for the information.

It looks like similar imagination about the angels having sex with women as the angels visiting Abraham and eating roasted calf. Angels do not eat earthly things nor have sex with humans.

Genesis 18:8 And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat.

[Qur'an 11.69] And certainly Our messengers came to Abraham with good news. They said: Peace. Peace, said he, and he made no delay in bringing a roasted calf.

[Qur'an 11.70] But when he saw that their hands were not extended towards it, he deemed them strange and conceived fear of them. They said: Fear not, surely we are sent to Lot's people.
Well, the angels themselves did not have sex with the human females, I believe they likely possessed human males and used their bodies as vessels to have sex.

Probably what happened when angels were said to have eaten food too, the angels were occupying a normal human body at the time.
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Old 10-15-2017, 10:38 AM
 
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Well, the angels themselves did not have sex with the human females, I believe they likely possessed human males and used their bodies as vessels to have sex.

Probably what happened when angels were said to have eaten food too, the angels were occupying a normal human body at the time.
According too the book of Enoch 200 or so Angels decided to come from heaven to have sex with human females in order to create armies of giants to destroy the armies of Arch Angel Michael. Semyaza wanted to overthrow Michael.

When a tiger has relations with a lion it often produces giant impotent cats. Some of these can can weight near 1,000 pounds. Angels can have relations with humans.

Their are many Fallen Angels, some named in the bible include: Semyaza,Azazal: taught men to make weapons, Kokabel: taught science, Sariel, Amazarak: Taught Sorcery
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Old 10-15-2017, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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According too the book of Enoch 200 or so Angels decided to come from heaven to have sex with human females in order to create armies of giants to destroy the armies of Arch Angel Michael. Semyaza wanted to overthrow Michael.

When a tiger has relations with a lion it often produces giant impotent cats. Some of these can can weight near 1,000 pounds. Angels can have relations with humans.

Their are many Fallen Angels, some named in the bible include: Semyaza,Azazal: taught men to make weapons, Kokabel: taught science, Sariel, Amazarak: Taught Sorcery
The bold is incorrect. (I'll refrain from commenting about the angels mating with humans.)

The offspring of lions and tigers are NOT giants. Most adult lions and tigers weigh in the neighbourhood of 400 pounds, as would their offspring. And the offspring are mostly infertile, not impotent.
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Old 10-15-2017, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Birmingham
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In the Bible, The Fallen Angels are named. One of the Leaders is named Samyaza. Do you believe their is no Angel named Samyaza?
There is no mention of any angel named Samyaza in the Qur'an. Therefore I do not know anything about such a fallen angel. I do believe that angels do not sin. They do exactly as God tells them to do.
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Old 10-15-2017, 12:48 PM
 
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Well, the angels themselves did not have sex with the human females, I believe they likely possessed human males and used their bodies as vessels to have sex.
It sounds more like a dirty old man's fantasy about having sex with daughters of men than any angel created from light getting into human males to look into v***nas of daughters of men (using the light as torch of course). Angels can see humans naked every day. They have no desire to have sex with humans.

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Probably what happened when angels were said to have eaten food too, the angels were occupying a normal human body at the time.
They looked like humans but were never earthly humans. The Qur'an identifies and clarifies these controversies. The angels did not eat at all.
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Old 10-15-2017, 01:57 PM
 
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The bold is incorrect. (I'll refrain from commenting about the angels mating with humans.)

The offspring of lions and tigers are NOT giants. Most adult lions and tigers weigh in the neighbourhood of 400 pounds, as would their offspring. And the offspring are mostly infertile, not impotent.
have you ever seen a lion tiger hybrid, they actually do grow to like 900 pounds. go to wikipedia or anywhere. they grow OVER 900 pounds sometimes. LOOK IT UP!!!
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Old 10-15-2017, 02:55 PM
 
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According too the book of Enoch 200 or so Angels decided to come from heaven to have sex with human females in order to create armies of giants to destroy the armies of Arch Angel Michael. Semyaza wanted to overthrow Michael.
On one hand, you believe in the book of Enoch.

And in the OP you are talking about a confusing nature of sentient beings from the Islamic point of view?
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