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Old 10-13-2017, 02:43 PM
 
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Islam vs Judaism vs Christianity; what do they teach about sentient persons?

1. Both Judaism and Christianity teach that their may be many other Gods out there in the universe, unlike in Islam. Islam teaches that their is only one God. The Hebrew God, Yahweh, specifically tells the Children of Israel in the Torah not to worship or make sacrifices to the Gods, Baal, and Moloch.

2. Judaism and Islam both teach that "Angels" are sentient beings created by the God of Abraham. Both religions teach that Angels can do no wrong. However, Islam teaches that God created an additional sentient race called Jinn, that have the ability to sin like man, and unlike angels who cannot sin. Whereas, Jews believe that Satan is an Angel of God that serves God by leading men astray to test their faith. In Islam, this figure called Satan is an evildoer called a Jinn, and not an angel. Jews don't believe in Jinn, and Jews believe that the Christian and Islamic devil is a member of the Heavenly Host serving God.

3. According to Islam, Angels are made from Bright light that produces no heat. And, Jinn are made from scorching smokeless fire. And Lastly, of the three acknowledged sentient beings created by God the last created was man. And man, having been made from clay and the dirt of the earth, is likely the most fragile of the three sentient beings created by the Islamic God. But, only Jinn and Man can sin against the Islamic God, as Angels cannot sin.

4. In Judaism, Christianity, and Islam; Angels can disguise themselves as Mankind. In Islam, Jinn can also disguise themselves as Mankind.

5. In Islam, Angels and Jinn have supernatural abilities; unlike man. Such as, incredible speed and strength.

6. According to Christianity, both Man and Angel can breed together. Reproducing Giant Man-Angel half/breeds.

7. According to Christianity, Angels have the ability to sin, though, they rarely do; unlike Mankind.

Please, if you know more let me know

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Old 10-13-2017, 02:58 PM
 
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Islam vs Judaism vs Christianity; what do they teach about sentient persons?

1. Both Judaism and Christianity teach that their may be many other Gods out there in the universe, unlike in Islam. Islam teaches that their is only one God. The Hebrew God, Yahweh, specifically tells the Children of Israel in the Torah not to worship or make sacrifices to the Gods, Baal, and Moloch.

2. Judaism and Islam both teach that "Angels" are sentient beings created by the God of Abraham. Both religions teach that Angels can do no wrong. However, Islam teaches that God created an additional sentient race called Jinn, that have the ability to sin like man, and unlike angels who cannot sin. Whereas, Jews believe that Satan is an Angel of God that serves God by leading men astray to test their faith. In Islam, this figure called Satan is an evildoer called a Jinn, and not an angel. Jews don't believe in Jinn, and Jews believe that the Christian and Islamic devil is a member of the Heavenly Host serving God.

3. According to Islam, Angels are made from Bright light that produces no heat. And, Jinn are made from scorching smokeless fire. And Lastly, of the three acknowledged sentient beings created by God the last created was man. And man, having been made from clay and the dirt of the earth, is likely the most fragile of the three sentient beings created by the Islamic God. But, only Jinn and Man can sin against the Islamic God, as Angels cannot sin.

4. In Judaism, Christianity, and Islam; Angels can disguise themselves as Mankind. In Islam, Jinn can also disguise themselves as Mankind.

5. In Islam, Angels and Jinn have supernatural abilities; unlike man. Such as, incredible speed and strength.

6. According to Christianity, both Man and Angel and breed together. Reproducing Giant Man-Angel half/breeds.

7. According to Christianity, Angels have the ability to sin, though, they rarely do; unlike Mankind.

Please, if you know more let me know
I tell you what the actual difference in theology is.

If you are a Jew ---- you are going to heaven. There is no hell for you. Easy and Simple!
If you are a Christian who believes Jesus to be his savior ---- you are saved. There is no hell for you. Easy and Simple !

*BUT*

If you are a Muslim --- It's your actions that will be judged and decide your destination. You are responsible for the choices you make in day to day life.

JUST BECAUSE you are a Muslim, does not automatically guarantee a "no question asked, red carpet welcome to heaven". THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE you need to know.

If you want to go heaven, you will need to earn heaven by fairly utilizing your life, your energies, your powers, your intelligence, your knowledge and your time, in an effort live a peaceful life, and do what's recommended and trying to avoid what's forbidden - Otherwise, there is no point of life.

If you don't try and you are one of those who have done big sins and you have not repented and/or not made up for your sins .... well then, you could face the consequences of your actions, it doesn't matter if you are Muslim and now you will get a special treatment.
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Old 10-14-2017, 02:34 AM
 
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Not much there, that's why I prefer the Dharmic scriptures that encourage people to look within themselves.
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Old 10-14-2017, 07:26 AM
 
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Bible also talks about 'the watchers', doesnt seem like they are angel or human though. Id imagine there are probably lots of different types of entities existing that we are not aware of, above us, yet below the angels/ demons.

Id say the various UFOs people have been seeing are an example of some of these beings, from history, whatever they are, its clear they have been here and doing basically the same things for 100s of years. If you look at reports from the 1400s compared to modern day UFO reports, people are describing the same types of craft in the sky, same shapes, same behavior, etc.

Its likely they have a purpose that is unknown to us.
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Old 10-14-2017, 10:33 AM
 
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Islam vs Judaism vs Christianity; what do they teach about sentient persons?

1. Both Judaism and Christianity teach that their may be many other Gods out there in the universe, unlike in Islam. Islam teaches that their is only one God. The Hebrew God, Yahweh, specifically tells the Children of Israel in the Torah not to worship or make sacrifices to the Gods, Baal, and Moloch.
Baal and such gods are false gods. The real God is only One (Allah/God/G-d) who created everything and was not created. And nothing is like the real God.

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2. Judaism and Islam both teach that "Angels" are sentient beings created by the God of Abraham. Both religions teach that Angels can do no wrong. However, Islam teaches that God created an additional sentient race called Jinn, that have the ability to sin like man, and unlike angels who cannot sin. Whereas, Jews believe that Satan is an Angel of God that serves God by leading men astray to test their faith. In Islam, this figure called Satan is an evildoer called a Jinn, and not an angel. Jews don't believe in Jinn, and Jews believe that the Christian and Islamic devil is a member of the Heavenly Host serving God.
Originally, angels and Jinn were created to serve God. The difference between the two is that the angels created from light have no ability to sin (do wrong). They do exactly as God tells them to do. They do not have freewill. But jinn created from smokeless fire do have freewill just like man has freewill, and can disobey God.

Jinn called Iblis who had made Adam and Eve go astray did it because he, along with angels, was commanded by God to prostrate to Adam and he did not like it because of his pride and refused when the angels did not refuse.

Angels will not go to hell as they have not done any sin (never disobeyed God). Jinn and men do disobey God and these two will end up in hell if their sins are greater in weight than their good deeds. Angels will be the guardians of both hell and paradise.

[Qur'an 66.6] O you who believe! Save yourselves and your families from a fire whose fuel is men and stones; over it are angels stern and strong, they do not disobey Allah in what He commands them, and do as they are commanded.

[Qur'an 7.179] And certainly We have created for hell many of the jinn and the men; they have hearts with which they do not understand, and they have eyes with which they do not see, and they have ears with which they do not hear; they are as cattle, nay, they are in worse errors; these are the heedless ones.

Men and stones will be the fuel of hell but jinn (already flaming fire) will be hit by the more intense fire. For them, it would be like a man being hit by a mountain of mud and being buried underneath it.

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3. According to Islam, Angels are made from Bright light that produces no heat. And, Jinn are made from scorching smokeless fire. And Lastly, of the three acknowledged sentient beings created by God the last created was man. And man, having been made from clay and the dirt of the earth, is likely the most fragile of the three sentient beings created by the Islamic God. But, only Jinn and Man can sin against the Islamic God, as Angels cannot sin.
It's because jinn and men have freewill but not the angels. Angels do exactly as they are commanded by God.

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4. In Judaism, Christianity, and Islam; Angels can disguise themselves as Mankind. In Islam, Jinn can also disguise themselves as Mankind.

5. In Islam, Angels and Jinn have supernatural abilities; unlike man. Such as, incredible speed and strength.
Angels can go to upper heaven but jinn can't. Jinn have to stay in the lower heaven.

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6. According to Christianity, both Man and Angel can breed together. Reproducing Giant Man-Angel half/breeds.
Where does it say so in Christianity? I must admit that I am reading this for the first time.

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7. According to Christianity, Angels have the ability to sin, though, they rarely do; unlike Mankind.

Please, if you know more let me know
Angels do exactly as they are commanded. That means they never sin. And that's why they will not be in hell.
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Old 10-14-2017, 10:42 AM
 
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Bible also talks about 'the watchers', doesnt seem like they are angel or human though. Id imagine there are probably lots of different types of entities existing that we are not aware of, above us, yet below the angels/ demons.

Id say the various UFOs people have been seeing are an example of some of these beings, from history, whatever they are, its clear they have been here and doing basically the same things for 100s of years. If you look at reports from the 1400s compared to modern day UFO reports, people are describing the same types of craft in the sky, same shapes, same behavior, etc.

Its likely they have a purpose that is unknown to us.
The watchers are the angels with every person recording his/her deeds.

[Qur'an 50.16] And certainly We created man, and We know what his mind suggests to him, and We are nearer to him than his life-vein.

[50.17] When the two receivers receive, sitting on the right and on the left.

[50.18] He utters not a word but there is by him a watcher at hand.
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Old 10-14-2017, 03:23 PM
 
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Islam vs Judaism vs Christianity; what do they teach about sentient persons?

1. Both Judaism and Christianity teach that their may be many other Gods out there in the universe, unlike in Islam. Islam teaches that their is only one God. The Hebrew God, Yahweh, specifically tells the Children of Israel in the Torah not to worship or make sacrifices to the Gods, Baal, and Moloch.

2. Judaism and Islam both teach that "Angels" are sentient beings created by the God of Abraham. Both religions teach that Angels can do no wrong. However, Islam teaches that God created an additional sentient race called Jinn, that have the ability to sin like man, and unlike angels who cannot sin. Whereas, Jews believe that Satan is an Angel of God that serves God by leading men astray to test their faith. In Islam, this figure called Satan is an evildoer called a Jinn, and not an angel. Jews don't believe in Jinn, and Jews believe that the Christian and Islamic devil is a member of the Heavenly Host serving God.

3. According to Islam, Angels are made from Bright light that produces no heat. And, Jinn are made from scorching smokeless fire. And Lastly, of the three acknowledged sentient beings created by God the last created was man. And man, having been made from clay and the dirt of the earth, is likely the most fragile of the three sentient beings created by the Islamic God. But, only Jinn and Man can sin against the Islamic God, as Angels cannot sin.

4. In Judaism, Christianity, and Islam; Angels can disguise themselves as Mankind. In Islam, Jinn can also disguise themselves as Mankind.

5. In Islam, Angels and Jinn have supernatural abilities; unlike man. Such as, incredible speed and strength.

6. According to Christianity, both Man and Angel can breed together. Reproducing Giant Man-Angel half/breeds.

7. According to Christianity, Angels have the ability to sin, though, they rarely do; unlike Mankind.

Please, if you know more let me know


No, Christianity and Judaism claim one God, their talking about people's belief in other gods does not equate to them believing there were other gods.


Judaism and Christianity teach ONE God.
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Old 10-14-2017, 03:49 PM
 
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Baal and such gods are false gods. The real God is only One (Allah/God/G-d) who created everything and was not created. And nothing is like the real God.

Originally, angels and Jinn were created to serve God. The difference between the two is that the angels created from light have no ability to sin (do wrong). They do exactly as God tells them to do. They do not have freewill. But jinn created from smokeless fire do have freewill just like man has freewill, and can disobey God.

Jinn called Iblis who had made Adam and Eve go astray did it because he, along with angels, was commanded by God to prostrate to Adam and he did not like it because of his pride and refused when the angels did not refuse.

Angels will not go to hell as they have not done any sin (never disobeyed God). Jinn and men do disobey God and these two will end up in hell if their sins are greater in weight than their good deeds. Angels will be the guardians of both hell and paradise.

[Qur'an 66.6] O you who believe! Save yourselves and your families from a fire whose fuel is men and stones; over it are angels stern and strong, they do not disobey Allah in what He commands them, and do as they are commanded.

[Qur'an 7.179] And certainly We have created for hell many of the jinn and the men; they have hearts with which they do not understand, and they have eyes with which they do not see, and they have ears with which they do not hear; they are as cattle, nay, they are in worse errors; these are the heedless ones.

Men and stones will be the fuel of hell but jinn (already flaming fire) will be hit by the more intense fire. For them, it would be like a man being hit by a mountain of mud and being buried underneath it.

It's because jinn and men have freewill but not the angels. Angels do exactly as they are commanded by God.

Angels can go to upper heaven but jinn can't. Jinn have to stay in the lower heaven.

Where does it say so in Christianity? I must admit that I am reading this for the first time.

Angels do exactly as they are commanded. That means they never sin. And that's why they will not be in hell.
Read the Book of Enoch in the Ethiopian Bible.
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Old 10-14-2017, 09:03 PM
 
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Read the Book of Enoch in the Ethiopian Bible.
Do you believe in the truth and validity of that book?
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Old 10-14-2017, 09:20 PM
 
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Do you believe in the truth and validity of that book?
I don't.
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