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It's some racist Jews who entirely ignore the covenants except for the parts that make them feel 'special' about their genealogies. the purpose was clearly to first establish a strong tribe and nourish it until it became able to become a universal light to all nations, as per Moses, which is where the Christian sect took up the new covenant, while the racist orthodoxy crumbled and stagnated, losing the Temple and finally their homeland, a clear message that merely being born Jewish meant nothing in itself, while those who moved on went on to expand and multiply into a great social movement. The theology was the important thing, not being Jewish with a 'pure' bloodline.
Ridiculous, and obviously spoken by a person who knows nothing of the history of Israel and certainly not the prophets.
You forget about how God wrote down everything that would happen, and how Israel would be scattered for 2000 years losing their language to the absolute miracle of how God promised to bring them back and make them a nation again. It was completely impossible for Israel to obtain their land back before Hitler, and what Hitler actually did was insinuated in being put into furnaces, and being refined by a fire, and Jews are related as Gold refined in a fire where we are told that we should buy some gold refined in a fire.
They not only accomplished the impossible in obtaining their land back like no other people in History, they also came back to their original language like no other people in history.......Not only did we see a first Exodus, but then we are witness to a second Exodus and the return to their own lands.
The league of Nations had given Israel all of their lands, and they have bartered 99 percent of it for peace, EVEN THOUGH the League of Nations gave them their land back, and even though they only retained a sliver of what was given back, there is still a push to drive them out, and yet, they remain as the greatest miracle of any people who have ever lived, and God had already written this history that took place thousands of years later.
God foresaw this great SECOND Exodus and return to the land where he PROMISED Gentiles such great and utter wonders when they would take it upon themselves to return a Jew back to his land.
A Gentile finds an extra vessel in finding and helping an exiled Jew return, and he buys the oil to fill this vessel in performing the duties of a priest as a priest brings an offering in a clean vessel, and what is his offering? A Jew.
This is the scripture Jesus is referring to in how a Gentile finds an extra vessel to fill with oil, and it is the same about buying Gold in Revelation. We have to buy gold refined in the fire to have a covering that we may not be naked.
Isaiah 66 19And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles. 20And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the LORD out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the LORD, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the LORD. 21And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the LORD
If God appoints any person to be a Levite, he is in fact, a son of oil, and thus, God pours oil on his head and anoints him to learn BECAUSE God had appointed him.....
Anyone can claim to be a Priest, but unless God appoints you as a priest, you don't receive the oil, you can't become a son of Oil by your own appointment, and the ONLY way for a Gentile to be considered a priest is if he brings an offering to the Lord in a clean vessel just as Isaiah says, and that offering IS a Jew.
This huge astonishing promise to the Gentile when a Gentile will spend his time and money helping a Jew return, or helping a Jew stranded in the nations is UNLIKE ANY PROMISE OF GOD.
If God will promise to reward the Gentile who serves a Jew in this way, what does it say about the relationship between Israel and God?
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Ridiculous, and obviously spoken by a person who knows nothing of the history of Israel and certainly not the prophets.
Your heavily bigoted opinion, and nothing else. The covenants were a two way street; those Jews who abandoned them for selfish pursuits were left behind, while the Jews of the new covenant went on to fulfill Moses' laws and move it on to the rest of the world, as intended in the first place. The rest of your post is just spam, attempting to throw out a lot of BS hoping to bury the obvious. Israel exists because Europeans supported it, until France backed out, and then LBJ stepped in. They were originally invited back by the Ottomans, with three Aliyahs from Russia beginning in 1869; the Brits provided further funds for developing local citrus industries in 1900-1910, and several secular Zionist movements began moving in, none of them religious, and we all know the aftermath of WW II, so no need to repeat that influx, including some 700,000 expelled from Muslim countries.
Your heavily bigoted opinion, and nothing else. The covenants were a two way street; those Jews who abandoned them for selfish pursuits were left behind, while the Jews of the new covenant went on to fulfill Moses' laws and move it on to the rest of the world, as intended in the first place. The rest of your post is just spam, attempting to throw out a lot of BS hoping to bury the obvious. Israel exists because Europeans supported it, until France backed out, and then LBJ stepped in. They were originally invited back by the Ottomans, with three Aliyahs from Russia beginning in 1869; the Brits provided further funds for developing local citrus industries in 1900-1910, and several secular Zionist movements began moving in, none of them religious, and we all know the aftermath of WW II, so no need to repeat that influx, including some 700,000 expelled from Muslim countries.
Jews never abandoned the covenant, IN FACT, they have been the ONLY people in the world who continuously keep the covenant under threat of death, your history or fairytale history is something else, and you speak of denying history and when literal, ACTUAL history is spoken, you call it spam, lol.
You are looking at Jewish history in bias against Jews because that is what you have been taught, JUST AS YOU SAY THAT JEWS ABANDONED THE COVENANT WHEN THEY DID NOT.
Even Jesus tells us the story of Ephraim and Judah in the prodigal son story where he refers to the prodigal nation of Ephraim as the prodigal son, and the son who stayed home with the father is the kingdom of Judah.
Judah HAS NEVER abandoned the covenant, and that is reality, Christians on the other hand, they abandoned the covenant 2000 years ago, and this is reality unless you know some other people who actually keep the commandments of God under pain of death from the rest of the world?
Hitler was a Christian, and you had to swear to the Christian god to join the Nazi party.
History is done by researching the source material, not by inventing things.
So is Mein Kampf, where the Christian Hitler pointed out the influence of the Christian Martin Luther on his political views, and where he states which god was responsible for his creationist views.
History is done by researching the source material, not by inventing things.
I think he might have his own history books, I have seen many Christians wanting to justify their lawlessness and paganism by condemning the ways and commandments of God and the people who follow the ways of God to rationalize their abandonment from the covenant Jesus came bringing, and that covenant was only for Ephraim and Judah........Christians have to rationalize how they are suddenly Israel and as such, heirs to the kingdom.
A big chunk of the OT is all about Jews Behaving Badly, and it stops dead about 300-200 B.C., stagnating, degenerates into obsessions with 'racial purity' and narcissism, hence the need for some Jews for a more Torah based and dynamic 'revolution' to move the theology onward to what Moses envisioned, and not let it become just another 'country club' for lawyers and their legalisms based on genealogies, most of which were likely faked by the Babylonian returnees, anyway. No wonder ever larger numbers of Jews said "Sign me up!" when the Christians came along; must have been a great relief to get out from under the nobility' and Pharisees. And of course its vastly superior advantages over paganism and its near imbecility is immediately obvious to 'gentiles' as well.
It's some racist Jews who entirely ignore the covenants except for the parts that make them feel 'special' about their genealogies. the purpose was clearly to first establish a strong tribe and nourish it until it became able to become a universal light to all nations, as per Moses, which is where the Christian sect took up the new covenant, while the racist orthodoxy crumbled and stagnated, losing the Temple and finally their homeland, a clear message that merely being born Jewish meant nothing in itself, while those who moved on went on to expand and multiply into a great social movement. The theology was the important thing, not being Jewish with a 'pure' bloodline.
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