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John and Dave are at church. Time comes for "Offering" John whips out wallet with cash, stuffs a wad of it into envelope and places in bucket. Dave sees this and is feeling bad he can only put in $40. He tries to save and helps out when he can, but he just can't give more. His worship is not as enjoyable as it could be.
Scenario #2
John and Dave are at church. Time comes for "Offering" John whips out wallet with cash, stuffs a wad of it into envelope and places in bucket. Dave sees this and knows that John makes a whole heck of a lot more than he does and so can afford to tithe way more. Still he feels sad he's not so fortunate and worships with less fevor.
Scenario #3.
John and Dave drop their offerings into the "Tithe Bin" before entering the chapel and worship a God who loves them equally. Dave doesn't feel bad as he knows he has given what he can and John is happy also and gave what he could. They are reflecting on the message the pastor gives and not thinking of the amount they tithed...
Just the odd thought I had. I have left churches that seemed to focus on "Donate,(Monetarily) tithe, (Monetarily) sacrifice (Monetarily)"...It's "We need this for this project, or that project. We fed 1200 family's last year, we're looking at feeding 2000.....Let's send kids to camp, give $50 we need to send socks to some country, donate $50"...
I know I should just dump my 10% in and leave it alone. But this just makes me wonder why I go when I know I'll be "Asked" to give/tithe/donate more....
John and Dave are at church. Time comes for "Offering" John whips out wallet with cash, stuffs a wad of it into envelope and places in bucket. Dave sees this and is feeling bad he can only put in $40. He tries to save and helps out when he can, but he just can't give more. His worship is not as enjoyable as it could be.
Scenario #2
John and Dave are at church. Time comes for "Offering" John whips out wallet with cash, stuffs a wad of it into envelope and places in bucket. Dave sees this and knows that John makes a whole heck of a lot more than he does and so can afford to tithe way more. Still he feels sad he's not so fortunate and worships with less fevor.
Scenario #3.
John and Dave drop their offerings into the "Tithe Bin" before entering the chapel and worship a God who loves them equally. Dave doesn't feel bad as he knows he has given what he can and John is happy also and gave what he could. They are reflecting on the message the pastor gives and not thinking of the amount they tithed...
Just the odd thought I had. I have left churches that seemed to focus on "Donate,(Monetarily) tithe, (Monetarily) sacrifice (Monetarily)"...It's "We need this for this project, or that project. We fed 1200 family's last year, we're looking at feeding 2000.....Let's send kids to camp, give $50 we need to send socks to some country, donate $50"...
I know I should just dump my 10% in and leave it alone. But this just makes me wonder why I go when I know I'll be "Asked" to give/tithe/donate more....
You have left churches that told you what they were using it for? I know people that have left churches because they didn't think the churches needed their gift. There's a fine line to walk there.
John and Dave are at church. Time comes for "Offering" John whips out wallet with cash, stuffs a wad of it into envelope and places in bucket. Dave sees this and is feeling bad he can only put in $40. He tries to save and helps out when he can, but he just can't give more. His worship is not as enjoyable as it could be.
Scenario #2
John and Dave are at church. Time comes for "Offering" John whips out wallet with cash, stuffs a wad of it into envelope and places in bucket. Dave sees this and knows that John makes a whole heck of a lot more than he does and so can afford to tithe way more. Still he feels sad he's not so fortunate and worships with less fevor.
Scenario #3.
John and Dave drop their offerings into the "Tithe Bin" before entering the chapel and worship a God who loves them equally. Dave doesn't feel bad as he knows he has given what he can and John is happy also and gave what he could. They are reflecting on the message the pastor gives and not thinking of the amount they tithed...
Just the odd thought I had. I have left churches that seemed to focus on "Donate,(Monetarily) tithe, (Monetarily) sacrifice (Monetarily)"...It's "We need this for this project, or that project. We fed 1200 family's last year, we're looking at feeding 2000.....Let's send kids to camp, give $50 we need to send socks to some country, donate $50"...
I know I should just dump my 10% in and leave it alone. But this just makes me wonder why I go when I know I'll be "Asked" to give/tithe/donate more....
Maybe if your one's fellow parishioners didn't see what everyone else gave, at least part of the problem would be solved. Why not suggest to your pastor that all contributions should be kept private. Nobody should be made to feel guilty for not giving what someone else gives.
This is odd indeed but not very realistic. First of all, how many people are giving "wads of cash" anymore? Most regular supporters of a church nowadays pay by a bank check that no one but the Treasurer ever sees. Some still do use the envelopes, but they aren't likely to be stuffing them in front of others while sitting in a pew.
No one should ever be told what someone else gives. I would not attend a church where such information is shared.
This is odd indeed but not very realistic. First of all, how many people are giving "wads of cash" anymore? Most regular supporters of a church nowadays pay by a bank check that no one but the Treasurer ever sees. Some still do use the envelopes, but they aren't likely to be stuffing them in front of others while sitting in a pew.
No one should ever be told what someone else gives. I would not attend a church where such information is shared.
I know several churches in town that have electronic giving. One can download an app and pay to THEM, directing them to deposit into the church's account. Works great.
If was simple in Jesus' days. People just met in homes, or in public. No costs there. Just use the outdoors or existing indoor locations. We'd benefit from a return to such simplicity. Then we could donate and tithe 100% to others, rather than losing the money to paying for buildings and utilities and material stuff.
John and Dave are at church. Time comes for "Offering" John whips out wallet with cash, stuffs a wad of it into envelope and places in bucket. Dave sees this and is feeling bad he can only put in $40. He tries to save and helps out when he can, but he just can't give more. His worship is not as enjoyable as it could be.
Scenario #2
John and Dave are at church. Time comes for "Offering" John whips out wallet with cash, stuffs a wad of it into envelope and places in bucket. Dave sees this and knows that John makes a whole heck of a lot more than he does and so can afford to tithe way more. Still he feels sad he's not so fortunate and worships with less fevor.
Scenario #3.
John and Dave drop their offerings into the "Tithe Bin" before entering the chapel and worship a God who loves them equally. Dave doesn't feel bad as he knows he has given what he can and John is happy also and gave what he could. They are reflecting on the message the pastor gives and not thinking of the amount they tithed...
Just the odd thought I had. I have left churches that seemed to focus on "Donate,(Monetarily) tithe, (Monetarily) sacrifice (Monetarily)"...It's "We need this for this project, or that project. We fed 1200 family's last year, we're looking at feeding 2000.....Let's send kids to camp, give $50 we need to send socks to some country, donate $50"...
I know I should just dump my 10% in and leave it alone. But this just makes me wonder why I go when I know I'll be "Asked" to give/tithe/donate more....
Cowboy church spends ZERO on church, the Cowboy churches I have been to, not even the pastor gets a salary and all of the money goes to the mission field, and if somebody truly wanted to tithe, he would go out into the public to find needy people himself. People brought in their harvest as tithes to feed the hungry, and Jesus caused people to be homeless, giving up all they had, and they raised money for the widows and distributed it themselves.
Cowboy church spends ZERO on church, the Cowboy churches I have been to, not even the pastor gets a salary and all of the money goes to the mission field
Good to hear. Thanks for the note.
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Good to hear. Thanks for the note.
