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"What would you think about a modern day prisoner who was doing the same thing?"
it is common place....but their writings/opinions/etc. never leave the yard.
I think he was definitely part of the early Christian movement. He might have even been a close disciple. In Revelation chapter 13 he is describing the "Jesus" of the Roman religion as a "Beast". He equates the false Roman Christianity as a beast which appeared to survive a mortal wound, which I assume was the crucifixion.
But he's really equating orthodox Christianity with the worship of Caesar, in a clever way.
It sounds pretty profound, but in today's terms it was really just political differences.
Not as much "profound" as "trippy and cerebral." If it was really profound, it would have outlined its ideas in concrete prose as science does.
Profundity is the opposite of Metaphor. Metaphor is supposed to appeal to shallow people as an attention-grabbing literal, while Profundity appeals to deep and wise people as perspicacious poetry.
The book of Revelation was written by a man named John who was an exiled prisoner. He had nothing to do but write down his visions. But there was a lot of anger mixed with love.
What would you think about a modern day prisoner who was doing the same thing? When people are in isolation they can have all kinds of wild and crazy thoughts. Anger. Love. Resentment. Forgiveness. Etc. But would you really trust this person who was a criminal? Regardless of whether the person was exiled for a true crime or whatever. The thoughts of extreme judgement that a person could have is kind of troubling.
Does anyone else understand my point of view?
Except that he was well-known to first century Christians, he had written 3 other letters and a Gospel, and was beloved by many in the church. Good thing you don't get to decide it.
Except that he was well-known to first century Christians, he had written 3 other letters and a Gospel, and was beloved by many in the church. Good thing you don't get to decide it.
Peter was not well known because he was persecuted, oppressed, and buried as Jesus was?
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The title is taken from the first word of the book in Koine Greek: ἀποκάλυψις apokalypsis, which means "unveiling" or "revelation". The author names himself as "John", but it is currently considered unlikely that the author of Revelation was also the author of the Gospel of John.
Some of the evidence for this was set out as early as the second half of the third century by Pope Dionysius of Alexandria, who noted that the gospel and the epistles attributed to John, unlike Revelation, do not name their author, and that the Greek of the gospel is correct and elegant while that of Revelation is neither; some later scholars believe that the two books also have radical differences in theological perspective.
Tradition links him to John the Apostle, but it is unlikely that the apostle could have lived into the most likely time for the book's composition, the reign of Domitian, and the author never states that he knew Jesus. All that is known is that this John was a Jewish-Christian prophet, probably belonging to a group of such prophets, and was accepted as such by the congregations to whom he addresses his letter. His precise identity remains unknown, and modern scholarship commonly refers to him as John of Patmos (Rev. 1:9 – "I was put on the Island of Patmos").
Early Church tradition dates the book to end of the emperor Domitian (reigned AD 81–96), and most modern scholars agree, although the author may have written a draft version after Nero's Great Fire in Rome (AD 64) under Vespasian (AD 69–79) and updated it under Domitian. The beast with seven heads and the number 666 seem to allude directly to the emperor Nero (reigned AD 54–68), but this does not require that Revelation was written in the 60s, as there was a widespread belief in later decades that Nero would return.
Except that he was well-known to first century Christians, he had written 3 other letters and a Gospel, and was beloved by many in the church. Good thing you don't get to decide it.
"This reply was written by John." (Do you accept that at face value? If not... good, you shouldn't!)
It is doubtful that the same person (whomever he was) wrote all five works, or that the Apostle John wrote any of them. Slapping someone's name on them was an early version of Appeal to Authority.
"This reply was written by John." (Do you accept that at face value? If not... good, you shouldn't!)
It is doubtful that the same person (whomever he was) wrote all five works, or that the Apostle John wrote any of them. Slapping someone's name on them was an early version of Appeal to Authority.
Why is it doubtful? Simply declaring it to be so isn't adequate proof.
"This reply was written by John." (Do you accept that at face value? If not... good, you shouldn't!)
It is doubtful that the same person (whomever he was) wrote all five works, or that the Apostle John wrote any of them. Slapping someone's name on them was an early version of Appeal to Authority.
The apostle you are referring to "whom Jesus loved" is probably Lazarus, since he is the one that Jesus raised from the dead and was at the bosom of Jesus (just like the "other" Lazarus was at the bosom of Abraham). But it's funny how everyone assumes it was John. I also believe it's possible that the exiled John could have been included in the gospel stories. But we really just don't know. And I don't trust anyone who claims to know one way or the other.
The apostle you are referring to "whom Jesus loved" is probably Lazarus, since he is the one that Jesus raised from the dead and was at the bosom of Jesus (just like the "other" Lazarus was at the bosom of Abraham). But it's funny how everyone assumes it was John. I also believe it's possible that the exiled John could have been included in the gospel stories. But we really just don't know. And I don't trust anyone who claims to know one way or the other.
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