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Perhaps instead of us all being wrong and not understanding, it's your hot head not being willing to take the time to sit and read -- and really think about -- what other people are writing.
That's because the salesperson is trying to push through her/his ideology at all cost. And what exactly are they selling? communism? It seems as though they have very little to no faith in their fellow man.
That's because the salesperson is trying to push through her/his ideology at all cost. And what exactly are they selling? communism? It seems as though they have very little to no faith in their fellow man.
I'll tell you what I think the problem often is (and it's on both sides) -- some people spend waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time worrying about "moving goal posts", Ad hominem, and other debating points, rather than substance. No one's awarding debating points here. And with a few exceptions, we're all able to figure out what people are trying to say.
When I was a principal, I would see assistant principals get wrapped up in such nonsense in disputes with parents, and in the end, it always ended badly for the school.
People here sometimes spend more time debating debating (not an error in my writing), than in debating the topic at hand.
The bolded is something I've been mulling for a while: Whether a God composed of a universe(s) full of consciousnesses could be in its infancy or early childhood and not yet formed a concept of itself as a singular entity.
My experiences tend to suggest it is ONE multicellular entity comprised of all existing cellular sentience.
I'll tell you what I think the problem often is (and it's on both sides) -- some people spend waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time worrying about "moving goal posts", Ad hominem, and other debating points, rather than substance. No one's awarding debating points here. And with a few exceptions, we're all able to figure out what people are trying to say.
When I was a principal, I would see assistant principals get wrapped up in such nonsense in disputes with parents, and in the end, it always ended badly for the school.
People here sometimes spend more time debating debating (not an error in my writing), than in debating the topic at hand.
hey phat, I am willing to compare claims based on offering an explanation, a mechanism, and making repeatable predictions.
I think people don't even have goal post and yet claim they never missed. they do nothing but ridicule people that are trying to kick one through. again, both sides.
I think, some anti-religious people do nothing but claim "they are wrong" and don't give us anything to debate.
they give nothing to debate and thats what we are saying.
My experiences tend to suggest it is ONE multicellular entity comprised of all existing cellular sentience.
well, if we run that claim through the four housemen of offering an explanation, a mechanism, and repeatable predictions, it all but renders anti-theism to "less valid",
anti-theism being less valid does not mean, in any way shape or form, that some religious gods are there.
thankfully, we are seeing atheist arriving that don't believe in denying everything just because some theist will use it as a spring board.
I'll tell you what I think the problem often is (and it's on both sides) -- some people spend waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time worrying about "moving goal posts", Ad hominem, and other debating points, rather than substance. No one's awarding debating points here. And with a few exceptions, we're all able to figure out what people are trying to say.
When I was a principal, I would see assistant principals get wrapped up in such nonsense in disputes with parents, and in the end, it always ended badly for the school.
People here sometimes spend more time debating debating (not an error in my writing), than in debating the topic at hand.
I've certainly seen this in recent days - arguing about how people think and not talking about anything of substance. I've been overrusing the word 'irrelevant' quite a bit but what else do you do with appeals to the Unknown and unsupported but undisprovable speculative guesswork?
That's because the salesperson is trying to push through her/his ideology at all cost. And what exactly are they selling? communism? It seems as though they have very little to no faith in their fellow man.
Isn't Communism dead? I thought it died. I'm sire I read it in the papers.
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My experiences tend to suggest it is ONE multicellular entity comprised of all existing cellular sentience.
Cosmic -sized Amoeba -God. It gets better all the time.
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all that chit chat and not a prediction.
if not god, then what is the best notion you have that matches what we see?
we can compare claims to see what ones are more plausible.
well, if we run that claim through the four housemen of offering an explanation, a mechanism, and repeatable predictions, it all but renders anti-theism to "less valid",
anti-theism being less valid does not mean, in any way shape or form, that some religious gods are there.
thankfully, we are seeing atheist arriving that don't believe in denying everything just because some theist will use it as a spring board.
Arach, you are sunk in a fog of terms that you don't understand, and you use to flail at things you don't like.
What 'atheists' are we seeing ariving? You? You are looking for a Cosmic Being that you can believe in.
A few sentences here and there in this thread is hardly having an awfully lot to say.
And yes, I have said a couple of times that I'm not going to respond to your posts, but I still read them, and sometimes can't resist the temptation.
Probably because they are soooo good!
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I guess that's horrible of me
No. Just daft. Either read and respond or ignore. Take your pick. I don't care either way. But don't keep flouncing and saying you are not going to read or respond any more and then, even after just a few days, do just that.
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But frankly, on the continuum of non-religious belief, you're very aggressive and on the very high end of the scale. You just are.
]...and yet I don't get warned or banned so it can't be that bad. Sometimes, when the nail won't go in one needs a heavier hammer and I'll take it as a compliment if that seems to be working. It's not something that worries me and I'm more than happy to be labelled a 'new atheist'. You need to get used to it old mate because we are growing rapidly whilst atheists like you are slowly depleting. We've had enough of being told to sit down, shut up in case you offend our beliefs and do what we (the Church) tell you to do. We are fighting back at last and frankly, We don't care if Christians get their delicate sensibilities trodden on or their belief in stone-age mythology get's ripped apart. We are tired of saying 'Sorry I offended your archaic beliefs.' We don't care about that any more.
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And you don't seem to understand that everyone has a right to varying degrees of agnosticism/atheism...
No. You can't be half-an-atheist. You either believe or you don't.
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...and that doesn't make you absolutely right or absolutely wrong.
...and where have I ever said it does. In fact, as recent as my last few posts I have stated that I'm perfectly open to change my beliefs should verifiable evidence dictate.
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