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Old 05-25-2019, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Germany
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An atheist agreeing to intelligent design?
No, a question responding to your hypothetical.
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Old 05-25-2019, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Sheffield, England
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There was no virgin birth. It doesn't happen today, and there is no scientific reason to believe it can or ever could happen. Just another mythological story that stands the test of time due to people who want to believe in something that gives them hope of a better existence after this one. With no evidence whatsoever. No more reason to believe this is true than mohammed flying to heaven on a winged horse or any other mythology.
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Old 05-25-2019, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Maybe you guys should spend a large amount of your time arguing about how exactly he turned water into wine.
The question would be if, not how. And it's a fair question. And of course, the answer is it was magic.
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Old 05-25-2019, 11:54 AM
 
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Considering there was no male contributor to the blastocyst inside of Mary, where did the male "Y" chromosome come from?

Or was Jesus just a transgendered person who identified as a male?

To say that Jesus was conceived and became a genuine human with only one set of 23 chromosomes, from Mary, without the other 23 chromosomes contributed by a father is a ridiculous notion.

God the father is not of human form, nor is the Holy Spirit. So, where did the Y chromosome come from? Apparently there was no copulation involved (Mary was a virgin), the contributor has no form, so where did it come from?

Simple fact is, Jesus should have been a woman. The only way he could be a man is if he identifies as such.

I mean, this would be rather easy to test. All we need to do is test the sacramental wine Catholics use. Transubstantiation turns it into blood, so it would be a simple test, right?

One can only come to the conclusion that: "Ergo, the Bible is A-OK with trans people."
He's a man because God calls himself male and he chose to be born a male.
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Old 05-25-2019, 12:49 PM
 
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No, a question responding to your hypothetical.
Hypothetical question?
It was more of a logical question.

Your’s was more of a knee jerk reaction.

Logically speaking, a process does not “come†from anywhere. It gets puts in place after intelligent planning and design are supported by resources.
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Old 05-25-2019, 01:49 PM
 
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He's a man because God calls himself male and he chose to be born a male.
So it IS because he identifies as male. Cool. Sort of like Cher's one time daughter, Chastity, who now identifies as the masculine Chaz, right?
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Old 05-25-2019, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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So it IS because he identifies as male. Cool. Sort of like Cher's one time daughter, Chastity, who now identifies as the masculine Chaz, right?
Good one!
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Old 05-25-2019, 03:08 PM
 
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Considering there was no male contributor to the blastocyst inside of Mary, where did the male "Y" chromosome come from?

Or was Jesus just a transgendered person who identified as a male?

To say that Jesus was conceived and became a genuine human with only one set of 23 chromosomes, from Mary, without the other 23 chromosomes contributed by a father is a ridiculous notion.

God the father is not of human form, nor is the Holy Spirit. So, where did the Y chromosome come from? Apparently there was no copulation involved (Mary was a virgin), the contributor has no form, so where did it come from?

Simple fact is, Jesus should have been a woman. The only way he could be a man is if he identifies as such.

I mean, this would be rather easy to test. All we need to do is test the sacramental wine Catholics use. Transubstantiation turns it into blood, so it would be a simple test, right?

One can only come to the conclusion that: "Ergo, the Bible is A-OK with trans people."
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On the other hand, if Jesus had a human father, there would no problem with his gender, would there?
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Old 05-25-2019, 03:50 PM
 
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Why is so much time and effort spent in discussing carnal issues instead of spiritual ones in the R&S forum? Answer that and you will begin to know why being carnal-minded is such a stumbling block to understanding the spiritual things in the Jesus narrative and the Gospel message.
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Old 05-25-2019, 05:58 PM
 
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Why is so much time and effort spent in discussing carnal issues instead of spiritual ones in the R&S forum? Answer that and you will begin to know why being carnal-minded is such a stumbling block to understanding the spiritual things in the Jesus narrative and the Gospel message.
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