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Ok, I don't see a need for the resurrection to confirm who Jesus is said to have claimed he was. He is also said to have stated that he was NOT god.
Good reason to think Jesus did not resurrect?
Well, dead bodies don't re-animate - that's a fact. However, not all dead bodies are actually dead. That's also a fact.
Apparently, crucifixion was a slow, torturous death, sometimes taking days. The gospel accounts give the time the alleged Jesus spent on the cross as only hours. I use the term alleged because here is the first problem with the resurrection claim - we don't even know that this man actually existed. Someone might have existed and gotten himself crucified and possibly even survived the crucifixion which gave rise to the legend.
Problems I have with the crucifixion account;
The details - way too many details, like the conversations by people that no gospel writer or anyone outside the group could have known about.
The women going to the tomb and finding it empty and open and being told by an angel to go and tell the twelve but who were afraid so they went and told no one. If they told no one then who would have know about it to write it down?
Even the events in the garden before the arrest - Jesus goes off on his own while the twelve are sleeping yet his conversation with God is recorded?
Hi 303Guy. Our exchange began with your comment: "Why should Christianity depend on the resurrection? Either the man had some good teachings or he didn't."
I explained why I think that Christianity depends on Jesus' resurrection being true.
You previously indicated that you believe Jesus could have been 'just been a man with some good teachings.' Now, in your most recent comment, you admit you even doubt the historicity of the man Jesus. If you subscribe to the 'Jesus Myth' and believe Jesus said he was NOT God, debating the resurrection is beside the point. Your beliefs are at odds with virtually all biblical scholars, religious or otherwise. If your doubts run that deep, I don't see them as reasonable and I don't see any point in expending effort to change your mind.
Hi 303Guy. Our exchange began with your comment: "Why should Christianity depend on the resurrection? Either the man had some good teachings or he didn't."
I explained why I think that Christianity depends on Jesus' resurrection being true.
You previously indicated that you believe Jesus could have been 'just been a man with some good teachings.' Now, in your most recent comment, you admit you even doubt the historicity of the man Jesus. If you subscribe to the 'Jesus Myth' and believe Jesus said he was NOT God, debating the resurrection is beside the point. Your beliefs are at odds with virtually all biblical scholars, religious or otherwise. If your doubts run that deep, I don't see them as reasonable and I don't see any point in expending effort to change your mind.
Ah, so here you admit that you are trying to change people's minds. About time you were honest about that.
I think I understand what 303Guy was saying. From my point of view, it doesn't matter who said what -- if the teaching it wise, it should work for anyone, whether they are christian, or Buddhist, or Hindu, or Pagan, or ____________________. Wise is wise.
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