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Old 09-10-2019, 12:15 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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If they’re in darkness (hell), they’re not invited to the party.
...and you'd be perfectly happy partying knowing that say, your children, were burning in everlasting agony whilst you are sipping your Moet et Chandon?
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Old 09-10-2019, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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...and you'd be perfectly happy partying knowing that say, your children, were burning in everlasting agony whilst you are sipping your Moet et Chandon?
Oh, you should know my daughter believes as I do... so no worries there.

Besides, there is no such thing as burning in everlasting agony. That's a myth.

Hell is darkness and may I add... suffering while you're there.

Now hear this!

Hell is not eternal.

It is a temporary place where the wayward go to face their sins. Once they seek God and ask for forgiveness... they can get outta there!
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Old 09-10-2019, 06:51 AM
 
Location: NSW
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Oh, you should know my daughter believes as I do... so no worries there.

Besides, there is no such thing as burning in everlasting agony. That's a myth.

Hell is darkness and may I add... suffering while you're there.

Now hear this!

Hell is not eternal.

It is a temporary place where the wayward go to face their sins. Once they seek God and ask for forgiveness... they can get outta there
!
Well, that's a bit different to the Eternal Hell with no way out, or the Annihilation viewpoint.
Not that different to Purgatory in a way, or is it a Universalist stand?
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Old 09-10-2019, 07:06 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Oh, you should know my daughter believes as I do... so no worries there.

Besides, there is no such thing as burning in everlasting agony. That's a myth.

Hell is darkness and may I add... suffering while you're there.

Now hear this!

Hell is not eternal.

It is a temporary place where the wayward go to face their sins. Once they seek God and ask for forgiveness... they can get outta there!
That is brilliant. I cannot think why God (prior to creation) didn't pass that knowledge onto the religious writers and save all the angst and grief about hellthreat. I mean, he told you, why the heck could he tell Luke or John? I mean, before they got to heaven and started sending spirit messages back.
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Old 09-10-2019, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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That is brilliant. I cannot think why God (prior to creation) didn't pass that knowledge onto the religious writers and save all the angst and grief about hellthreat. I mean, he told you, why the heck could he tell Luke or John? I mean, before they got to heaven and started sending spirit messages back.
It's that darn puckish sense of humour the OT god-thing has. Remember that thigh-slapper about declaring itself pleased that all it created was good?

And then, a little later, announced it was just kidding and here come da' flood.
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Old 09-10-2019, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Well, that's a bit different to the Eternal Hell with no way out, or the Annihilation viewpoint.
Not that different to Purgatory in a way, or is it a Universalist stand?
I don’t know the Catholic faith, so can’t comment on purgatory.

Here’s another revelation:

There’s no devil, Satan, Lucifer, fallen angel... or any other leader of Hell... or any devilish spirit who is in charge of bringing chaos to earth.

The only spiritual warfare is that inside the souls of each spirit.
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Old 09-10-2019, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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That is brilliant. I cannot think why God (prior to creation) didn't pass that knowledge onto the religious writers and save all the angst and grief about hellthreat. I mean, he told you, why the heck could he tell Luke or John? I mean, before they got to heaven and started sending spirit messages back.
FYI, the writings in the Bible aren’t the original writings of Luke or John. Especially, Revelations. That was a dream John had. Most of what Luke wrote was re-written by the early leaders of the churches who wrote the Bible.

As I posted over ten years ago... there was no Virgin Mary. Jesus’ mother was married to Joseph and then along came Jesus.

What I love about my beliefs is that they make sense!
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Old 09-10-2019, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Oh, you should know my daughter believes as I do... so no worries there.
But you understood the point nevertheless.

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Besides, there is no such thing as burning in everlasting agony. That's a myth.

Hell is darkness and may I add... suffering while you're there.

Now hear this!

Hell is not eternal.

It is a temporary place where the wayward go to face their sins. Once they seek God and ask for forgiveness... they can get outta there
...and you know this how?
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Old 09-10-2019, 12:35 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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I don’t know the Catholic faith, so can’t comment on purgatory.

Here’s another revelation:

There’s no devil, Satan, Lucifer, fallen angel... or any other leader of Hell... or any devilish spirit who is in charge of bringing chaos to earth.

The only spiritual warfare is that inside the souls of each spirit.
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FYI, the writings in the Bible aren’t the original writings of Luke or John. Especially, Revelations. That was a dream John had. Most of what Luke wrote was re-written by the early leaders of the churches who wrote the Bible.

As I posted over ten years ago... there was no Virgin Mary. Jesus’ mother was married to Joseph and then along came Jesus.

What I love about my beliefs is that they make sense!
I had no idea that we agree on so much. If you just put "Luke" and "John" in quotes.
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Old 09-10-2019, 01:29 PM
 
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Oh, you should know my daughter believes as I do... so no worries there.

Besides, there is no such thing as burning in everlasting agony. That's a myth.

Hell is darkness and may I add... suffering while you're there.

Now hear this!

Hell is not eternal.

It is a temporary place where the wayward go to face their sins. Once they seek God and ask for forgiveness... they can get outta there!
Let me see if I've got things straight, with so many variables in play...

The parts about burning in everlasting agony, the eternal nature of hell, and satan/devil/fallen angels... are all myths.

But the part about hell being a temporary place of suffering (but not burning) where bad people go to negotiate forgiveness (wherepon they presumably leave the darkness for the light)... is true.

I'm afraid to ask, but how do we (or at least you) know these things??
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