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A thread about the idea of God was closed due to the eruption of discussion science which apparently is against the forum rules. It is a good rule, especially since there is a Science forum that already exists and THAT does not allows discussion of religion.
I wish there was more clarity in how this rule is applied.
If i were to repeatedly pop up on ANY discussion of religion and spirituality and ask for evidence, am i asking for anything other than science for proof?
Spirituality has an inherent rationale and logic that may or may not fit into a science framework. Often it actually does as demonstrated many times. But that is irrelevant to those seeking and discussing spirituality, it is incidental to what they believe and seek.
A thread about the idea of God was closed due to the eruption of discussion science which apparently is against the forum rules. It is a good rule, especially since there is a Science forum that already exists and THAT does not allows discussion of religion.
I wish there was more clarity in how this rule is applied.
If i were to repeatedly pop up on ANY discussion of religion and spirituality and ask for evidence, am i asking for anything other than science for proof?
Spirituality has an inherent rationale and logic that may or may not fit into a science framework. Often it actually does as demonstrated many times. But that is irrelevant to those seeking and discussing spirituality, it is incidental to what they believe and seek.
Afraid, this will follow same path, as the other thread...
Otherwise, religion is science of spirituality. Formal science, otherwise referred and forbidden here, is science of materialism. But, in its principle, they are both science. sci·ence
the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
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branch of knowledge area of study discipline a particular area of science.
plural noun: sciences
a systematically organized body of knowledge on a particular subject.
Argue all you want to but, through thousands of years, spiritual leaders, gurus, priests, theologians, did science of "religion". Just with means and results different from science of say, technology. Psychology, for example, IS science yet, deals with subjects of no material value too.
A thread about the idea of God was closed due to the eruption of discussion [of] science which apparently is against the forum rules. It is a good rule, especially since there is a Science forum that already exists and THAT does not allows discussion of religion.
I wish there was more clarity in how this rule is applied.
If i were to repeatedly pop up on ANY discussion of religion and spirituality and ask for evidence, am i asking for anything other than science for proof?
Spirituality has an inherent rationale and logic that may or may not fit into a science framework. Often it actually does as demonstrated many times. But that is irrelevant to those seeking and discussing spirituality, it is incidental to what they believe and seek.
It's not "apparently", which means as far as one can see. It is right there in the rule thread in black and red.
I suggest the OP and all others read (or RE-read) it through it so there can be no claims of not understanding what the rule is or why it was made. As I said when I closed the other thread, we've had enough of threads turning into purely scientific discussion and the reports and bickering that it brings. We've tried to accommodate conversations about the place where the lines between spirituality and religion are blurred, but too many folks do not seem to be able to self-regulate their behavior.
I am always perplexed as to why there is a demand for evidence on matters of faith to begin with.
Then I am further perplexed that instead of ignoring the obvious bait, some people of faith jump in and start providing information which is not evidence. It goes nowhere.
I am always perplexed as to why there is a demand for evidence on matters of faith to begin with.
Then I am further perplexed that instead of ignoring the obvious bait, some people of faith jump in and start providing information which is not evidence. It goes nowhere.
The problem is that some people cannot differentiate faith from fact.
The problem is that some people cannot differentiate faith from fact.
That is a real problem, but fully knowing that, one would think that non-believers would stop asking for evidence from those types. What's the point?
Anyway, to contribute to the thread--
One thing I've asked non-believers about for which I've never gotten an answer is, "Don't you ever use your natural intuition to find an answer or guidance as to what to do in a given situation?"
I don't see a lot of difference between asking one's intuition and asking for the same guidance in the form of prayer to a deity or the Universe or the whatever it is to which one prays for guidance. (I'm not talking about vending-machine prayer here, wherein one asks for a specific outcome.)
This is an area where I see spirituality and science coming together. Are our prayers/intuitive requests and the answers we receive through those practices the results of an unseen force or forces, or are they some as-yet-unexplained mechanism in our brains that picks up information in ways outside of our normal information-gathering methods?
The problem is that some people cannot differentiate faith from fact.
Exactly. So they, those "some people", keep asking for evidence and giving evidence as if all that matters.
What puzzles me is if you are not convinced about spirituality why does this forum even interest you?
If you are curious about it then why be confrontational instead of just listening?
If you must post why not to seek information rather than attack?
And if you are not convinced after all that, and your comfortable with your own belief, and belief it is, why not seek some other forum for diversion?
What exactly attracts non-believers of spirituality to come here and engage?
It is such a low hanging fruit to argue about faith. It is FAITH, belief, trust. There is not argument. How exactly does it affect anyone who simply is not interested?
What exactly are you arguing? Why do you feel entitled to answers? Go seek your own.
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