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Old 04-12-2021, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Not per se. But you just can't loosely discuss it, as with other texts.
Why not?
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:20 PM
 
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Why not?
Have you read it?

Some may feel somethings need more prefacing than others.
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Oh! Something happened before our births, in which we had no control, so let's choose sides and apply the behavior to modern day.
Oh! Let's make excuses to justify what the ancients did.
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:32 PM
 
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Oh! Let's make excuses to justify what the ancients did.
Judge and jury, it is whatever you say.
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Have you read it?

Some may feel somethings need more prefacing than others.
Beside the bible itself, it is the most prized writings I know of, again, there cant nobody completely understand the bible without the Oral Torah. People who have no respect for God's religion might disagree, but of course they are enemies of God's religion, God's commandments, judgements and precepts, they arent just bias against the Torah and it's people, they fight against God's ways, and his holy city Jerusalem.

Those people, people that claim to follow God but who teach how his religion is now ended where nobody should keep his Sabbaths.
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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4 Mose 31, 14 And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle. 15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? 16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. 17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.



So Moses and his soldiers had won a battle and he ordered to kill prisoners. And not only that. Men, who had killed their parents, shall take the virgins for themselves. Wow. That's cruel.
I should point out that Moses and his men who committed those atrocities, were not Christian. Just saying.

Mind you, Christians have their own list of atrocities. So in that sense, Christian morals are or were, not all that different. You know, witch burnings, torture, crucifixions, impalings.
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:36 PM
 
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Beside the bible itself, it is the most prized writings I know of, again, there cant nobody completely understand the bible without the Oral Torah. People who have no respect for God's religion might disagree, but of course they are enemies of God's religion, God's commandments, judgements and precepts, they arent just bias against the Torah and it's people, they fight against God's ways, his holy city and Jerusalem.

Those people, people that claim to follow God but who teach how his religion is now ended where nobody should keep his Sabbaths.
As to the OP, it would be good to know the exact texts of reference in order to get appropriately outraged.
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:28 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Beside the bible itself, it is the most prized writings I know of, again, there cant nobody completely understand the bible without the Oral Torah. People who have no respect for God's religion might disagree, but of course they are enemies of God's religion, God's commandments, judgements and precepts, they arent just bias against the Torah and it's people, they fight against God's ways, and his holy city Jerusalem.

Those people, people that claim to follow God but who teach how his religion is now ended where nobody should keep his Sabbaths.

The Oral Torah is not needed to respond to the OP. The OP entirely skipped over the attempted extermination of the Israelites in order to state that the Israelites did what they did without cause. If we move to modern times, this is the same as saying the Israeli's pounded the Gaza Strip w/o reason with 100's of rockets leaving out the context that that Palestinians fired 150+ rockets into Israel the day before at civilians not caring who they killed. Without the context that covers the situation from the beginning, it makes the Israeli's look cruel for no reason.
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Old 04-12-2021, 03:14 PM
 
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God did not have the spiritual authority over the people, and demon and fallen angels had equal power as God and His angels, because God gave His authority in the earth to Adam, and he gave the authority to the devil ............ So in those days when plagues and curses of the devil ran roughshod over people close to His people the only way was to have the sinners killed to get rid of demon spirits and satan fallen angels so the curses and plagues would be gone ...... See this is the days before Jesus has governance in the earth after the cross of Christ, which Jesus has spiritual authority in the earth and would exercise this authority through the prayers of the saints today
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Old 04-12-2021, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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God did not have the spiritual authority over the people, and demon and fallen angels had equal power as God and His angels, because God gave His authority in the earth to Adam, and he gave the authority to the devil ............ So in those days when plagues and curses of the devil ran roughshod over people close to His people the only way was to have the sinners killed to get rid of demon spirits and satan fallen angels so the curses and plagues would be gone ...... See this is the days before Jesus has governance in the earth after the cross of Christ, which Jesus has spiritual authority in the earth and would exercise this authority through the prayers of the saints today
So I assume that the fairly significant number of christians who have died from covid is evidence that many christians are such terrible sinners that the only way god could rid them of their demon spirits was to kill them off.
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