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Old 07-08-2021, 11:33 AM
 
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We work at it very hard. It doesn't come easy.
You don't say...

Seems to come very naturally and easily to both of you. Doesn't seem to take much mental effort anyway.
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Old 07-08-2021, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Germany
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You are all tweaked out because people hold Religious & Spiritual Beliefs, and discuss those beliefs on a internet forum titled "Religion and Spirituality"?
Y'all are just gonna have to learn to suck it up, or live in constant angst in this 80 to 90 percent Theist/Spiritual world.
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I have a great idea! Submit to God's will!! That'll pep you up!
You want me to keep slaves, kill gays, and support having sex with 3 year old girls (under the right conditions, naturally, nothing creepy)? What sort of a head trip are YOU on?
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Old 07-08-2021, 11:54 AM
 
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No.

You want me to keep slaves, kill gays, and support having sex with 3 year old girls (under the right conditions, naturally, nothing creepy)? What sort of a head trip are YOU on?
Are you switch hitting for Salty?

Seems the examples from past history are a bit extreme, though such examples as part of religions all over the world are too many to count (or ignore). More current day examples would be better if the idea is to demonstrate how religion is still something very often all too difficult to embrace for more than a few reasons. Sometimes all the good does not always outweigh all the not-so-good, but that's the sort of accounting that also will vary quite significantly depending on one's ability to consider these matters objectively.
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Old 07-08-2021, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Germany
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Are you switch hitting for Salty?
I only hit switches for myself, although I am confused about why you are so aggressive when you switch a light on.

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Seems the examples from past history are a bit extreme, though such examples as part of religions all over the world are too many to count (or ignore). More current day examples would be better if the idea is to demonstrate how religion is still something very often all too difficult to embrace for more than a few reasons. Sometimes all the good does not always outweigh all the not-so-good, but that's the sort of accounting that also will vary quite significantly depending on one's ability to consider these matters objectively.
I have used the example of my brother being at a Christmas Markt two days before a religious terrorist murdered 12 people there, but apparently atheists posting unfortunate truths on the internet are more worse than that.
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Old 07-08-2021, 12:15 PM
 
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No.

You want me to keep slaves, kill gays, and support having sex with 3 year old girls (under the right conditions, naturally, nothing creepy)? What sort of a head trip are YOU on?
No...I want you to not be so ignorant as to assess human conduct and interaction in 2021 (Why is it considered "2021"?) with the typical standards of human conduct and interaction written about in two thousand year old metaphorical and allegorical writings.
Then...you wouldn't pose such a hateful and miserable question...meant to bash Abrahamic Religious Beliefs and those who embrace them.
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Old 07-08-2021, 12:20 PM
 
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No...I want you to not be so ignorant as to assess human conduct and interaction in 2021 (Why is it considered "2021"?) with the typical standards of human conduct and interaction written about in two thousand year old metaphorical and allegorical writings.
Then...you wouldn't pose such a hateful and miserable question...meant to bash Abrahamic Religious Beliefs and those who embrace them.
yes, they list only the things that they want. If you notice, we don't see one hard core anti-all-gods-of-any-type that do not have a direct scar on them.

They are submitting to their dogma of "deny everything", "lack belief", and "we don't have to say anything." Well, quite frankly, if some people had to think about it, like learnme alluded to, some of them couldn't do it without serous bias and error.

Quite frankly its submitting just like any fundy theist.
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Old 07-08-2021, 12:28 PM
 
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You don't say...

Seems to come very naturally and easily to both of you. Doesn't seem to take much mental effort anyway.
That's because we have worked at it very hard to the point where it is transparent.
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Old 07-08-2021, 12:58 PM
 
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yes, they list only the things that they want. If you notice, we don't see one hard core anti-all-gods-of-any-type that do not have a direct scar on them.

They are submitting to their dogma of "deny everything", "lack belief", and "we don't have to say anything." Well, quite frankly, if some people had to think about it, like learnme alluded to, some of them couldn't do it without serous bias and error.

Quite frankly its submitting just like any fundy theist.
Nothing like being patronized!!!
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Old 07-09-2021, 04:03 AM
 
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No...I want you to not be so ignorant as to assess human conduct and interaction in 2021 (Why is it considered "2021"?) with the typical standards of human conduct and interaction written about in two thousand year old metaphorical and allegorical writings.
Laws. Not metaphorical and allegorical writings, laws written to serve a god. And apparently people submitted to what they thought was this gods will, which is why the question was raised.

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Then...you wouldn't pose such a hateful and miserable question...meant to bash Abrahamic Religious Beliefs and those who embrace them.
Pointing out sex with children is wrong? Pointing to ugly truths is wrong? Some things need to be bashed.

And your need to misrepresent is hateful, miserable and bashing. A good dose of priorities will cure your self hatred.
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Old 07-09-2021, 04:08 AM
 
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Nothing like being patronized!!!
Kapitan Straw man likes to attack me by using irrelevant mantras. It is amusing.
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