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One-third of white evangelicals and about one-quarter of mainline Protestants and Latter-day Saints personally own a gun, compared to 17% of atheists, 17% of nonwhite evangelicals, 11% of Jews and 9% of Muslims, Burge found.
https://www.deseret.com/faith/2022/5...ls-protestants
17% of atheists own guns. That is higher than agnostics, unclassified, nothing in particular, several non-white evangelists and other sects, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims and Hindus.
Atheists are 78% white and mostly men. - Pew Research.
It probably will be as well if guns were as freely available and the right to carry it is enshrined in the constitution as it is in the US. Forgot you dont have a constitution, well whatever that takes its place then.
This has nothing to do with atheism or theism, that is a ridiculous conclusion. How does one even come up with this?
India with its humongous population probably has the least number of death by gun violence by civilians, other than some exceptional terrorist activities. India is something like 98% religious.
Do you have any idea why the UK has much stricter gun laws than the US?
On March 13th 1996 there was a school shooting at an elementary school in Scotland. It became known as the Dunblane Massacre. The was a massive PUBLIC outcry and campaign, known as the Snowdrop Petition which sought to push through gun control legislation.
It was THE PUBLIC who decided on strict gun control.The British public do not want guns to be freely available. Why would they?
The massacre was 26 years ago. There have been NO school shootings since.
Also however much you would like to wash over it and deny it, the religious right tend to be the most ardent and outspoken when it comes to holding on to their precious guns.
Do you have any idea why the UK has much stricter gun laws than the US?
On March 13th 1996 there was a school shooting at an elementary school in Scotland. It became known as the Dunblane Massacre. The was a massive PUBLIC outcry and campaign, known as the Snowdrop Petition which sought to push through gun control legislation.
It was THE PUBLIC who decided on strict gun control.The British public do not want guns to be freely available. Why would they?
The massacre was 26 years ago. There have been NO school shootings since.
Also however much you would like to wash over it and deny it, the religious right tend to be the most ardent and outspoken when it comes to holding on to their precious guns.
17% of atheists own guns and 78% of atheists are white. if you add agnostics and unclassified and nothing in particular groups, the ownership is even higher.
Yes, America is a gun owning country, that has nothing specific to religion.
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As Burge pointed out in his tweet, gun ownership is far from common within major faith groups. Even among white evangelicals, two-thirds do not own a gun.
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Houses of worship across the country have been the target of gun violence multiple times in recent years.
17% of atheists own guns and 78% of atheists are white. if you add agnostics and unclassified and nothing in particular groups, the ownership is even higher.
Yes, America is a gun owning country, that has nothing specific to religion.
Do the percentage of atheists owning guns is half the number of percentage of all Americans therefore an atheist is half as likely to own a gun as a non atheists. But you left that out of your posts.
I agree with you if you say American gun laws are to blame for the higher murder and death rates in the US. But you need to face it that the religious bright are the main ones supporting the political party that opposes any gun control legislature. And that there are other factors than a smaller percentage of atheists than religious people owning guns is the problem. And many of your fellow theists disagree with you that guns are the problem. Heck some of them blame lack of prayer in school, computer games or cell phone and single mothers but not guns
But nice try attempting to throw blame upon atheists.
17% of atheists own guns and 78% of atheists are white. if you add agnostics and unclassified and nothing in particular groups, the ownership is even higher.
Yes, America is a gun owning country, that has nothing specific to religion.
Look, atheism is just a form of theism. Some have their spiritual void filled with conviction that they believe io god and, some have same void filled with convincing themselves, there is no god.
One way or another, it is about god.
Well "does god exist" is mostly an up-down, yes-no sort of question, so yes. Either you believe or you do not. Technically, there is another choice, you actively believe god does not exist, or so-called "hard atheism" -- the position of very few atheists, here or elsewhere.
What theists can't stand is the notion that atheists are mostly indifferent to god or religion. It is far more flattering to them to imagine that we are floridly opposed to it, angry about it, hateful toward it, obsessed with it, whatever. In reality a very few of us come to places like this because it interests us for various reasons, but all this imagined reactivity really just reflects believer's need to "explain" atheism in terms favorable to theism.
I also detect the old theist trope here of "every one has a god-shaped vacuum in themselves" that can only be properly filled by god. Those of us who transition from theism to atheism know of course that this is not the issue at all. If theism uniquely met some critical need, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. We're not stupid; we wouldn't cut off our nose just to spite our face.
I'm going to make this observation relevant to the thread then I'm off to enjoy the sunshine.
Here's the irony. People come to this forum to rail specifically against atheism and atheists.
If they didn't come to this forum, in their daily lives they probably never have to have a discussion about atheism, with an atheist, ever. I hardly ever do, and I'm an atheist living with another atheist with a load of non-religious and atheist friends.
I'm scratching my head to remember a single conversation I've had in the last couple of years about it out here in real life
Yet people come here to argue with atheists they clearly hate with every fibre of their being and complain about atheism and atheists endlessly: That atheists are boring and they don't care what atheists think. That they are being picked on and singled out. That everything here is unfair. If you didn't come here you wouldn't have to be subjected to such horrors that you seem to have here.
Why come to a forum that you dislike so much and hate half the people here?
I like coming here. I like the people and I like the conversation. I wouldn't go to a forum where I hated everyone.
Anyway that's my two cents for the day. Happy 4th July weekend everyone. And I mean everyone.
Life's too short for grudges. Love ya.
Look, atheism is just a form of theism. Some have their spiritual void filled with conviction that they believe io god and, some have same void filled with convincing themselves, there is no god.
One way or another, it is about god.
Belief in the existence god/divinity is based on conviction, yes.
The denial of the existence of God/Divinity is based on the conviction that it exist.
You are exactly right. Brahman is everywhere as existence.
Belief in the existence god/divinity is based on conviction, yes.
The denial of the existence of God/Divinity is based on the conviction that it exist.
You are exactly right. Brahman is everywhere as existence.
Repeating a lie does not make it true, just shows you cannot move from your own opinion
And even if your divinity exists that still does not mean that religion is only good and religious people do not do terrible things under the impression that they are doing it for their God.
Lacking a belief in a God due to insufficient evidence only means believing in a God in your already made up mind.
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