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Old 08-21-2022, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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List all your understanding of divinity. Divinity is One. It is called by different names. Tzap explained it to you, but you refuse to learn or are unable to. It is not a difficult concept.
Actually I think you twins are misusing the term. There's a good article on the topic in Wikipedia (with more notes and references than you've ever presented), and the article begins with "Divinity or the divine are things that are either related to, devoted to, or proceeding from a deity. What is or is not divine may be loosely defined, as it is used by different belief systems. The root of the word divine is literally "godly", but the use varies significantly depending on which deity is being discussed.

A person believing in the divinity of Jesus Christ, for example, would most likely reject the divinity of Ganesha.
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Old 08-21-2022, 09:13 AM
 
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Lol, you are defending a trouble maker with your cartoon view of how the world works. According to your 'logic', if someone suggested you abused animals, it would be your fault for getting emotional, and that would be an example of your inner state, and it would be your fault someone was lying about you.
It would be reasonable to take exception and have a degree of indignation over false accusations.
But it is up to one's own constitution as to whether they are gonna lose it over such defamation.
On the other hand...your analogy is not applicable. You propose a "lie" levied about someone suggesting they abused animals....noting the insults, mocking, and constant derisive assails of Theists/Religious by the Atheists is not a lie.
Though, many times people called out for being a bully and a hector display indignation for being exposed....in fact, it's typical.
And we have already been over this, many times: https://www.city-data.com/forum/63106255-post111.html

If you listened to Tzaphkiel, and her very smart and wise contributions to this board...you would gain understanding and be greatly improved.
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Old 08-21-2022, 09:23 AM
 
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Actually I think you twins are misusing the term. There's a good article on the topic in Wikipedia (with more notes and references than you've ever presented), and the article begins with "Divinity or the divine are things that are either related to, devoted to, or proceeding from a deity. What is or is not divine may be loosely defined, as it is used by different belief systems. The root of the word divine is literally "godly", but the use varies significantly depending on which deity is being discussed. A person believing in the divinity of Jesus Christ, for example, would most likely reject the divinity of Ganesha.
Divinity is not proprietary. Divinity is not limited to this or that name. Divinity is not limited to this or that deity.

The Oneness of Divinity includes all expressions of it (all paths of religion and spirituality). Just like the facets on a diamond are not separate from the diamond. View in post above sees separate facets, but is unable to recognize the diamond. Different cities and towns have different names, different climates, different locations. Nashville is not Kiev is not Tzfat. But they are all part of the same one planet earth. Same earth, different corners of it. Same diamond, different facets. Same Divinity, different expressions.

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Old 08-21-2022, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Divinity is not proprietary. Divinity is not limited to this or that name. Divinity is not limited to this or that deity.
woo, or more correctly, woo-woo
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Old 08-21-2022, 09:31 AM
 
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woo, or more correctly, woo-woo
Only to those that lack knowledge & understanding.

Tzaph has knowledge & understanding (and wisdom) so she does not suffer from such deficiencies.
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Old 08-21-2022, 09:43 AM
 
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woo, or more correctly, woo-woo
as noted previously:

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if a person does not understand math, they will not understand explanations of math or the language of math or the basics of math or be fluent in math. if a person does not understand Divinity, they will not understand explanations of Divinity or the language of Divinity or the basics of Divinity or be fluent in Divinity.
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Old 08-21-2022, 10:02 AM
 
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Snipped childish and irrelevant comments.

Wikipedia ... and the article begins with "Divinity or the divine are things that are either related to, devoted to, or proceeding from a deity. What is or is not divine may be loosely defined, as it is used by different belief systems. The root of the word divine is literally "godly", but the use varies significantly depending on which deity is being discussed.

A person believing in the divinity of Jesus Christ, for example, would most likely reject the divinity of Ganesha.
There you go again with your sad efforts to sow division among religions and people.
The wiki summary of divine and divinity is acceptable to me but you may not understand why.

In any case this is not a topic for Ask an Atheist...? I know I am not one.
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Old 08-21-2022, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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as noted previously:
Yes, we all know that you are special. Very special. You have understanding that us mere mortals do not have. ... That's woo and ego combined.
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Old 08-21-2022, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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There you go again with your sad efforts to sow division among religions and people.
The wiki summary of divine and divinity is acceptable to me but you may not understand why.

In any case this is not a topic for Ask an Atheist...? I know I am not one.
It's not to sow division. It's to be clear that there is division. Two different things.

For example, MANY christians believe that if you do not accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior that you will go to hell. As a Hindu, do you therefore accept that you will go to hell?
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Old 08-21-2022, 10:07 AM
 
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Yes, we all know that you are special. Very special. You have understanding that us mere mortals do not have. ... That's woo and ego combined.
Peace be with you.
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