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The allegorical and metaphorical story in that great, epic, and prolific work of literary art illustrates that slaves should be freed...even heavily punish the Masters to compel that, if necessary.
With all due respect to your YouTube video and interpretation of the Bible, are you asking everyone simply dismiss all the comments and explanations to the contrary here? Including what I explained in my comment #36. All "canards" far as you are concerned as well?
Slavery is by no means the only topic covered in the Bible, BTW. In epic fashion, the Bible also includes a good deal of other "guidance" with regard to gay people, women, contraception, etc., that isn't "all good" as you and others forever want to insist. All to be swept under the rug of allegories and metaphors subject to whatever interpretation suits your fancy. "How convenient." Please have mercy.
Always a little amusing when someone attempts to educate by way of YouTube videos, but I suppose there is a place for that too. All one needs to do is find the video that fits their narrative, and that's quite easy to do these days...
Wouldn't you think that as bad as slavery is, the Bible would have been more critical and condemning of slavery everywhere and anywhere? In no uncertain terms. Why instead some rather passive reference to slavery? Passive if not condoning slavery? The story of Exodus is only one story about the liberation of slaves. A one group of people. Like all the other migrations of people who were slaves or simply being treated badly, it's they who free themselves from that "persecution" (if they are lucky). Not a "Biblical Deity."
Apparently god didn't understand that enslaving another human being was immoral.
Progress yes. Most certainly progress, especially if you look at how far we've come over the course of thousands of years. As always, however, we are forever with a long way still to go, and hanging on to old ways of thinking is forever retarding our progress. Still, it's hard not to see the progress we've made, just like it's easy to see how far we've still to go.
Always a little amusing when someone attempts to educate by way of YouTube videos, but I suppose there is a place for that too. All one needs to do is find the video that fits their narrative, and that's quite easy to do these days...
Wouldn't you think that as bad as slavery is, the Bible would have been more critical and condemning of slavery everywhere and anywhere? In no uncertain terms. Why instead some rather passive reference to slavery? Passive if not condoning slavery? The story of Exodus is only one story about the liberation of slaves. A one group of people. Like all the other migrations of people who were slaves or simply being treated badly, it's they who free themselves from that "persecution" (if they are lucky). Not a "Biblical Deity."
The authors of the Bible (and other Theological writings) wrote the stories they wrote.
It represented the times/culture/traditions of that era...and, certainly, the personal preferences of the authors.
There are many, even currently, even absent Theological influence of any kind, that hold a positive or negative view of all kinds of sexual habits & preferences, and all kind of other issues. That is how they would prefer things to be...and they have their subjective view of all those things.
Their subjective view has no more or less merit than any other.
Every issue...social, political, economic/financial, military, sexual, nutritional, etc, etc, ect...has any & every view of it on the spectrum. All have their ideas and preferences relative to them.
If the differening preferences of others does not suit you...you are in great company. That's how it is with everyone that has ever existed.
The authors of the Bible (and other Theological writings) wrote the stories they wrote.
It represented the times/culture/traditions of that era...and, certainly, the personal preferences of the authors.
There are many, even currently, even absent Theological influence of any kind, that hold a positive or negative view of all kinds of sexual habits & preferences, and all kind of other issues. That is how they would prefer things to be...and they have their subjective view of all those things.
Their subjective view has no more or less merit than any other.
Every issue...social, political, economic/financial, military, sexual, nutritional, etc, etc, ect...has any & every view of it on the spectrum. All have their ideas and preferences relative to them.
If the differening preferences of others does not suit you...you are in great company. That's how it is with everyone that has ever existed.
Time for me to sign off now and as I do I have to wonder about this last comment of yours as if any of this is something we don't all know...
Of course there will always be disagreement about what is good or bad, right or wrong, truth or not, but this in no way negates the importance of making these distinctions, for better or worse. You never seem to grasp this fact as if all differing opinion renders all opinion equal and/or pointless. We humans have not made the progress we have with that sort of futile or indifferent attitude. We learn, we judge, and if we're lucky more people land on the side of right rather than wrong. A challenge if not requirement we can't fail as a race.
To that end, cheers and a good over bad Sunday for all!
Apparently god didn't understand that enslaving another human being was immoral.
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Originally Posted by LearnMe
With all due respect to your YouTube video and interpretation of the Bible, are you asking everyone simply dismiss all the comments and explanations to the contrary here? Including what I explained in my comment #36. All "canards" far as you are concerned as well?
Slavery is by no means the only topic covered in the Bible, BTW. In epic fashion, the Bible also includes a good deal of other "guidance" with regard to gay people, women, contraception, etc., that isn't "all good" as you and others forever want to insist. All to be swept under the rug of allegories and metaphors subject to whatever interpretation suits your fancy. "How convenient." Please have mercy.
Yes.
Now, rather than that effort intensive and immoral conquer, capture & enslave method...we whack them with bullets, heavy artillery, air strikes, and missles with all kind of warheads (even nuclear), etc. So we don't have to be bothered.
That's obviously the much more moral way. It must be...because throughout the world, we currently exalt those that carry out those acts and hold them in the highest esteem for their great Valor.
I note this...to illustrate how subjectively moral or immoral any act can be viewed.
"EVIL" Europeans?
VERY Important to ignore 270 million deaths attributed to "peaceful" Islam (or 800+ millions, by their own bragging). Or the incessant warfare and slaughter committed by the stone age cultures that inhabitated America before the arrival of "evil" Europeans, with their advanced agriculture that empowered thousands to live on the same area that only supported one. In fact, if the Europeans never migrated, 98% of descendants of the indigenous people would be dead, since the "unimproved" land could not support their primitive hunter - gatherer lifestyle in sufficient numbers.
Let's not forget "charitable works" like medical care, versus a lifespan that rarely exceeded 35 years of age. Or the culture that abandoned their elderly who could no longer migrate with the tribe, so they suffered a slow death.
For the record, there are plenty of "White" (pale) ethnic groups ranging from Aleuts, Iniuts to Laplanders and Siberian herders that aren't from the European countries that instituted colonies in five other continents. Calling out these non-Europeans as "whites" is racist bigotry, too.
SPANISH INQUISITION
The "bloodbath" of the Spanish Inquisition was at most 14 deaths per year.
Between 3000 to 5000 people died during the Inquisition's 350 years, but debate continues about the extent of and nature of atrocities committed and about the number of victims.
(One may speculate that the incessant Muslim attacks may have contributed to the virulence of their over reaction. Spain did fight Islam for 700 years. It is alluded that the Hindu culture was similarly scarred by contamination with Islam.) https://blog.sami-aldeeb.com/2018/03...de-in-history/
"EVIL" Relocation?
The fact remains, that of the three major (& mutually exclusive) lifestyles : hunter-gatherer, nomadic herdsman, and settled farmer, the farmer can support the most people per area. Until that changes, their "improvement" of the land supersedes the two other lifestyles, which do not support as many people. Thus "excluding" non-farmers from trespass is essential. No farmer can tolerate pilfering by hunter-gatherers or the trampling of his crop by herds. And that has nothing to do with religion or ethnicity.
the Bible was written by men who thought it was perfectly fine.
(of course I know that...but that was not my point)
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