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Old 11-24-2008, 05:54 PM
 
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Sorry . . . but this is utter nonsense. I belong to no one, have to submit to no one, and live according to the rules I deem appropriate. I CHOOSE to mirror the attitude of Jesus and those of others who hold similar views on life because it feels right TO ME.
every one his family tree will end to Adam
and Adam was created by Allah.

The Prophets and Messengers are many, of whom Allaah has mentioned twenty five in the Qur’aan, and we are obliged to believe in all of them. They are:

Aadam, Idrees, Nooh, Hood, Saalih, Ibraaheem, Loot, Ismaa’eel, Ishaaq, Ya’qoob, Yoosuf, Shu’ayb, Ayyoob, Dhu’l-Kifl, Moosa, Haaroon, Dawood, Sulaymaan, Ilyaas, al-Yasa’, Yoonus, Zakariyya, Yahyaa, ‘Eesa and Muhammad – blessings and peace be upon them all.

The Qur’aan is the greatest and last of the heavenly Books, and it abrogates the books which came before it and is a witness over them, so we must follow it and ignore those which came before it:

“And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad) the Book (this Qur’aan) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohaymin (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures). So judge among them by what Allaah has revealed”[al-Maa’idah 5:48 – interpretation of the meaning]
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:13 PM
 
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84 Say (O Muhammad): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and that which was vouchsafed unto Moses and Jesus and the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered.
85 And whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter.

sura 3
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:23 PM
 
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While you guys are here trying to outdo each other with font colors, the reality-based universe is quietly leaving your faith-based carnival behind. See ya.
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:53 AM
 
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the French poet Alphonse de Lamartine said

"If greatness of purpose,
smallness of means,
and astonishing results

are the three criteria of a human genius,

who could dare compare any great man in history with Muhammad?

"Philosopher, Orator, Apostle, Legislator, Conqueror of Ideas, Restorer of Rational beliefs...The founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire that is Muhammad.

As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?"
.............. Alphonse de Lamartine in 'Histoire de la Turquie,' Paris, 1854.
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Old 03-01-2012, 10:02 AM
 
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The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History is a 1978 book by Michael H. Hart.
It is a ranking of the 100 people who most influenced human history.


number one in the list is
the Prophet Muhammad, upon him be prayer and peace .
Prophet Muhammad upon him be prayer and peace
Isaac Newton
Jesus Christ upon him be prayer and peace
Buddha
Confucius
St. Paul
Ts'ai Lun
Johann Gutenberg
Christopher Columbus
Albert Einstein

Now, let's be fair. You only mention this because you happen to agree with this particular author's ranking. If he had put Muhammad at #57, you'd be calling Hart a blind fool.
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Old 03-01-2012, 01:25 PM
 
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Default "There are Lies, damned lies and statistics!" Courtesy of Mark Twain.

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The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History is a 1978 book by Michael H. Hart.
It is a ranking of the 100 people who most influenced human history.


number one in the list is
the Prophet Muhammad, upon him be prayer and peace .
Prophet Muhammad upon him be prayer and peace
Isaac Newton
Jesus Christ upon him be prayer and peace
Buddha
Confucius
St. Paul
Ts'ai Lun
Johann Gutenberg
Christopher Columbus
Albert Einstein

Hmmm. I got quite a different list.

LEADERS & REVOLUTIONARIES APRIL 13, 1998 (not 1978, like your aged list!)

--David Ben-Gurion, Israel's first Prime Minister --Winston Churchill, British Prime Minister --Mohandas Gandhi, father of modern India --Mikhail Gorbachev, Soviet reformer --Adolf Hitler, German dictator --Ho Chi Minh, first President of North Vietnam --Pope John Paul II, religious leader --Ayatullah R. Khomeini, leader of Iran's revolution --Martin Luther King Jr., civil rights leader --Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, founder of the Soviet Union --Nelson Mandela, South African President --Mao Zedong, leader of communist China --Ronald Reagan, U.S. President --Eleanor Roosevelt, U.S. First Lady --Franklin Delano Roosevelt, U.S. President and New Deal architect --Theodore Roosevelt, U.S. President and...


Read more: TIME 100 Persons Of The Century - TIME

They also debated whether they should have included Adolf Hitler, Chairman Mao, Ho Chi Minh and Vladimir Lenin, all of whom certainly had a major impact on about 50M people who died because of WW-II, or in Russian or Chinese or Vietnamese gulags. (Not to mention the virulent Ayatullah R. Khomeini... a Muslim hero no doubt..)

So your list, though charming, is highly biased.

But still, so what? The easily debunked "Argument from [supposed] Authority" fails on so many levels. If Hitler can be on just such a list, then in what light does that place your buddy Mohammed?

Influence can be in many forms, and just being "influential" does not validate much of anything, now does it?

Keep it cpoming though; it's entertaining!
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:42 PM
 
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What did they say about The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him)


Hercules, Lamartine ,Michael hart ,Gandhi, George wells... What did they say about prophet MOHAMMED? - YouTube
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Old 11-30-2012, 04:15 PM
 
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What did they say about The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him)


Hercules, Lamartine ,Michael hart ,Gandhi, George wells... What did they say about prophet MOHAMMED? - YouTube
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.. and everyone is free to agree or disagree with it..
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:02 AM
 
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If Muhammed, Jesus or Buddha were REALLY all that influential, a great deal more people would be influenced by them. Nearly everyone in the world rejects what has been handed down by at least two of them, which is not a good record, compared to Newton, or even Jefferson or Gandhi or Caesar or Henry Ford or Sam Walton upon him be prayer and peace, who are not even in the top ten of this phony one-man's-opinion list.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:12 AM
 
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The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History is a 1978 book by Michael H. Hart.
It is a ranking of the 100 people who most influenced human history.


number one in the list is
the Prophet Muhammad, upon him be prayer and peace .
Prophet Muhammad upon him be prayer and peace
Isaac Newton
Jesus Christ upon him be prayer and peace
Buddha
Confucius
St. Paul
Ts'ai Lun
Johann Gutenberg
Christopher Columbus
Albert Einstein

I think the prophet Muhammad has an image problem:
  1. Terrorism
  2. Theocratic Tyranny
  3. Subjugation of women
  4. Intolerance of criticism
  5. Persecution of Moderate Muslims
  6. Fear of Western Culture
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