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Yes it is because really? What is going to happen to you? Either you die and go to Heaven or you just die!!
If your God really existed and is all knowing like so many say, wouldn't he/she/it see right through this attempt? Also, how do you know you are praying to the right God? how do you know that you aren't leaving a bunch of Gods out, and those Gods will be angry and keep you out of heaven. This argument is so flawed because it only takes into account two options. It is an illogical appeal to fear.
So this makes more sense that a Big Bang and evolution?
Yeah, it does. The big bang and evolution do not explain the beginning of it all. An uncaused Creator does. The Creator is the ONLY logical conclusion to the question.
Just take a rational, logical look at the evidence. That's all I'm suggesting.
Yeah, it does. The big bang and evolution do not explain the beginning of it all. An uncaused Creator does. The Creator is the ONLY logical conclusion to the question.
Just take a rational, logical look at the evidence. That's all I'm suggesting.
Yeah, it does. The big bang and evolution do not explain the beginning of it all. An uncaused Creator does. The Creator is the ONLY logical conclusion to the question.
Just take a rational, logical look at the evidence. That's all I'm suggesting.
I don't know how the universe and life started. No one does. But what I do know is that every day that passes, science tells us more and more about how the universe works. Religion has not brought anything to the table in 2000+ years and in fact loses ground daily. The Earth is not flat. Seas don't get parted. Dead messiahs don't come back from the grave and universes don't get zapped into existence in seven working days. Everyone understands the comfort you derive from the thought that a mystical man in the sky is watching out for you, but science, where I put my faith to the degree such a word fits, gives me great comfort and promises to give me more in the future. How instant universe manufacturing by a timeless, ageless, being rings truer than physics, I'll never understand.
Yeah, it does. The big bang and evolution do not explain the beginning of it all. An uncaused Creator does. The Creator is the ONLY logical conclusion to the question.
Just take a rational, logical look at the evidence. That's all I'm suggesting.
That's all we've done is look at evidence and it doesn't point to some divine creator. Just because the world is complex doesn't prove it was designed. It took a long time for things to get to the point they are.
We don't need to believe in a big bang or evolution the same way you need to believe in a god. We may find out down the road what actually happened and we'll admit that a big bang and evolution were disproven theories and we'll move on. Gods are disproved all the time and yet people still cling to them.
How instant universe manufacturing by a timeless, ageless, being rings truer than physics, I'll never understand.
I'm suggesting that the timeless, ageless being created physics. Physics explains nothing but the current situation. Can you explain, with physics, how it all started?
It's irrational to hold to the notion of no creator despite all the evidence contrary.
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That's all we've done is look at evidence and it doesn't point to some divine creator. Just because the world is complex doesn't prove it was designed. It took a long time for things to get to the point they are.
We don't need to believe in a big bang or evolution the same way you need to believe in a god. We may find out down the road what actually happened and we'll admit that a big bang and evolution were disproven theories and we'll move on. Gods are disproved all the time and yet people still cling to them.
The fact that it exists proves that it had a cause/creator. The simple idea of cause/effect dictates that something/someone HAD to have caused it.
I'm not arguing from the perspective of complexity here (although that is an interesting argument as well).
Yeah, it does. The big bang and evolution do not explain the beginning of it all. An uncaused Creator does. The Creator is the ONLY logical conclusion to the question.
Just take a rational, logical look at the evidence. That's all I'm suggesting.
Once again...there is absolutely no evidence of the existence of any sort of deity. None. Nada. Zero. Zilch. Zip.
So RATIONALLY and LOGICALLY we can say, "Unless by some stroke of the imagination there is future evidence that comes to light proving the existence of a deity, I can confidently say that I have absolutely no belief in the existence of any of them."
I'm suggesting that the timeless, ageless being created physics. Physics explains nothing but the current situation. Can you explain, with physics, how it all started?
It's irrational to hold to the notion of no creator despite all the evidence contrary.
And some of us think it is irrational to believe in demons and ghosts and every word of old books without question or analysis. The simple truth is life is complex, but evolution accounts for complexity. The universe exists and scientists have some powerful theories how it started, theories that gain in solidity daily through peer review, testing and scrutiny. I'm willing to cash in evolution and Big Bangs the minute a more plausible theory arrives. Yours ain't it. I'm sorry, but godidit just isn't enough for me and it is not enough for more and more people every day.
I'm suggesting that the timeless, ageless being created physics. Physics explains nothing but the current situation. Can you explain, with physics, how it all started?
It's irrational to hold to the notion of no creator despite all the evidence contrary.
The fact that it exists proves that it had a cause/creator. The simple idea of cause/effect dictates that something/someone HAD to have caused it.
I'm not arguing from the perspective of complexity here (although that is an interesting argument as well).
Why do you refuse to answer my question? Do you agree that the original ideas of a "God" is a man-made creation? If no, where do you believe the concept originated?
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