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Old 05-04-2009, 07:52 PM
 
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Pressumably God's God's God.


Infinite regression? I'm not sure, since when is are cycles silly?


That computer you are using to type is probably better at multitasking than every person in the world put together. Cars can travel many times faster than the engineers who make them and robot arms are stronger than the roboticists who made it. Sure none of those things are capable of abstract thought(not yet anyways) but then again they weren't designed with that in mind.

Creators don't necessarily need to be more complex than the creations.
then who created God's God's God?
let me guess, God's God's God's God? how far back will you go? IS there an ultimate god? who created HIM?


"Creators don't necessarily need to be more complex than the creations."
are you kidding? you can not seriously believe that!

that is simply incorrect! a computer is NOT as complex and sophisticated as a human! it's better at computing large quantities of numbers...that's ALL it's good at! you obviously do NOT understand the intercomplexities that go on in your brain! well, i'm not so sure about yours actually!
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Old 05-04-2009, 07:54 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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1. God has always been. Nobody created God.
2. God created time so the question makes no sense.
3. God is omnipresent. He exists both in and out of space.
4. Faith
I agree with these answers
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Old 05-04-2009, 07:57 PM
 
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I agree with these answers
I wouldn't be surprised.
There's a lot of people here who refuse to think for themselves....to analyze Evidence...instead, they blindly accept myths!
well, sir, that's nothing to be proud of!
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:19 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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There's a lot of people here who refuse to think for themselves....to analyze Evidence...instead, they blindly accept myths!
well, sir, that's nothing to be proud of!
Yes I know!
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:26 PM
 
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you obviously know nothing about probabilities! do you know how many galaxies and stars and supernovas there are in the "known" universe?
do you know how small we are?

i highly doubt you are a thinking man! (or woman)
yes..the universe is a pretty big place and who knows there are other living planets inhabited by people who worship God in their own ways. They have their tests etc. But for us humans its this place right now that concerns us. Our test is here.

And what makes you think just because a person believes in religion it stops him or her from using the grey cells? I can't speak for the other religions, but in Islam we are taught to question and there are verses in the Quran that reveals stuff now only known by modern science....there were great muslim scientists during the Golden age of Islam..yet these scientists did not became agnostic or atheistic with the scientific knowledge gained during their era but it made them even more religious...
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:36 PM
 
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I agree with these answers
You do realize that Coos is an atheist and is just repeating the common theist answers, right?
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:50 PM
 
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You do realize that Coos is an atheist and is just repeating the common theist answers, right?
Yes I know that, but he still answered the question correct
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:52 PM
 
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yes..the universe is a pretty big place and who knows there are other living planets inhabited by people who worship God in their own ways. They have their tests etc. But for us humans its this place right now that concerns us. Our test is here.

And what makes you think just because a person believes in religion it stops him or her from using the grey cells? I can't speak for the other religions, but in Islam we are taught to question and there are verses in the Quran that reveals stuff now only known by modern science....there were great muslim scientists during the Golden age of Islam..yet these scientists did not became agnostic or atheistic with the scientific knowledge gained during their era but it made them even more religious...
umm......first of all, where in ghor-aan does it predict stuff only known by moern science? where exactly?
also, Ghor-aan says SPECIFICALLY that you must KILL those who do not believe. do you believe in that?
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Old 05-04-2009, 09:10 PM
 
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God can't have always been there. Are you telling me that one day God just became????
if i tell you that i found a watch on the ground, you ask who the designer was. you won't accept the answer of "the watch was always there".

well, who was the designer of God?
comparing a object and metaphysics does not make a reference, obviously nothing comes from nothing, but a similar question i would ask is has the mathematical law always existed. Has 1+1 always been 2 , you bet it has.How do you know that? because the concept has always been there.

A watch has a cause that is why it is materialized out of rational thinking? so here is your answer of how the universe did not materialized accidentally or matter

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Old 05-05-2009, 01:45 AM
 
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then who created God's God's God?
let me guess, God's God's God's God? how far back will you go? IS there an ultimate god? who created HIM?
Ultimate God was created by ultimate God's God.

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"Creators don't necessarily need to be more complex than the creations."
are you kidding? you can not seriously believe that!

that is simply incorrect! a computer is NOT as complex and sophisticated as a human! it's better at computing large quantities of numbers...that's ALL it's good at! you obviously do NOT understand the intercomplexities that go on in your brain!
Yes I do believe it and I can't see what's stopping us from eventually making something advanced enough to make us obsolete. Don't you think that perhaps it's an unfair comparison? I mean Considering we've gone from making spears to H-bombs in less than 40000 years of history what do you think we could do with the 3 billion years or so?(assuming of course we even live that long)



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well, i'm not so sure about yours actually!
'kay
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