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The girl in that vid was the basis for the movie "The Exorcism of Emily Rose". The things protrayed actually happened (in Germany), but she was a diagnosed epileptic and was shown that the drugs prescribed to her exacerbated the condition. The family requested the exorcism, took he off medical care and she eventually died. In the true story the exorcists were convicted and sentenced to 6 months probation. No demons, bad medication.
If it is true, then all you have to do is get someone who believes it to do it, while being documented, investigated, and corroborated by skeptics.
Then you would have documented evidence of the power of a believer's mind manipulating the laws of physics.
And you're falling for the old trick of mind over matter, I didn't say it was true, I said if you believe in your mind that it could happen, then it can, in your mind........you see this whole exercise has been a play on words in making you believe in the possibility of something happening when you know it can't and yet if I could cause you to have the least little bit of doubt,then you would think that it was possible.
For argument's sake, how many people have you met, with respect to occult and black magic.
What are your parameters? My experience with the "occult and black magic" community ranges from fluffy sparking unicorn Wiccabes to the LHP crowd to the odd practitioner of Candomble or Santeria. (I had a roommate once who was devoted to Kali-ma, that was fun.) I need to know upfront who you consider pure enough to fit your demands before I answer. The witch/Pagan/what have you community is pretty diverse here.
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Originally Posted by Antlered Chamataka
Ever traveled out of the United States?? USPS does passport applications. Once all the formalities are over, let's travel to my homeland. I'll show you. It's up to you to make a decision after that
On your dime? Sure, if you can prove that you aren't really posting from the forensic psych ward.
And you're falling for the old trick of mind over matter, I didn't say it was true, I said if you believe in your mind that it could happen, then it can, in your mind........you see this whole exercise has been a play on words in making you believe in the possibility of something happening when you know it can't and yet if I could cause you to have the least little bit of doubt,then you would think that it was possible.
Except that "you" wasn't the pronoun you used, you never made me consider the possibility of it being true (based on my explanation of how to prove it to a skeptic), and you have not caused any doubt in my skepticism. So what was the point of this semantic bait-and-switch?
Except that "you" wasn't the pronoun you used, you never made me consider the possibility of it being true (based on my explanation of how to prove it to a skeptic), and you have not caused any doubt in my skepticism. So what was the point of this semantic bait-and-switch?
try an analogy from the fairy-tale world:
you have to kiss many frogs before you meet a prince.
She was mentally ill, for cripes sake. There are no demons, devils, spirits, gods, angels, nor any other sort of supernatural being.
In the year 1973 I had an encounter with two demons. I can assure you, demons do exist. And there is a lot more going on out there then mental illness.
So sad to see how sick she got from the demon. And it's scary too.
oh man, i bet you believed the guy that drank soda and mentos really died too.
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No demons, bad medication.
....you see this whole exercise has been a play on words in making you believe in the possibility of something happening when you know it can't and yet if I could cause you to have the least little bit of doubt,then you would think that it was possible.
USPS does passport applications. Once all the formalities are over, let's travel to my homeland. I'll show you. It's up to you to make a decision after that 
