Why ID and evolution are incompatible (genesis, agnostic, bible, quote)
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
It is often claimed that ID and evolution are compatible theories, although there is a fallacy with this claim. Evolution by natural selection is supported by facts and evidence. While there are unknowns within the theory, evolution doesn't claim to have an answer to those unknowns. ID on the otherhand, does claim to have an answer to those unknowns(the intelligent designer). The problem with this is that the designer(whether that be god, purple aliens or the magic monkeyman of the seventh dimension) that ID claims is the answer to those unknowns is undetectable by scientific testing, whereas evolution doesn't give undetectable answers. The problem with claiming ID and evolution are compatible is that ID adds an unproven claim which only complicates matters whereas evolution does not do so.
Of course they're not compatible. They're not supposed to be. They are polar opposites. In one, we just magically popped up out of the big black vacuum of space, and in the other, we were created by God. Now, which one sounds more fallacious?
And God doesn't need to be detected. We don't need to know his secrets. We're not superior to him, and we don't need to question Him.
Of course they're not compatible. They're not supposed to be. They are polar opposites. In one, we just magically popped up out of the big black vacuum of space, and in the other, we were created by God. Now, which one sounds more fallacious?
Who's claiming we just magically popped out of the big black vacuum of space?
Those who believe that the world was not created by God do. That's the precious "Big Bang" theory. Which was, apparently, followed by some sort of life forms, which evolved into today's humans. Complete hogwash. Just read Chapter 1 of the bestselling, most read book of all time.
Those who believe that the world was not created by God do. That's the precious "Big Bang" theory. Which was, apparently, followed by some sort of life forms, which evolved into today's humans. Complete hogwash. Just read Chapter 1 of the bestselling, most read book of all time.
You don't appear to know the difference between 'evolution' and the 'big bang theory.' I usually instruct Christians who believe in Creationism to AT THE VERY LEAST, know what it is they are actually arguing against so they don't come across as ignorant to the subject as if it is the first time they are hearing those terms. You'll do yourself and your fellow believers a great deal of good if you, again, know the difference between these terms and what that means for the greater picture.
Of course they're not compatible. They're not supposed to be. They are polar opposites. In one, we just magically popped up out of the big black vacuum of space, and in the other, we were created by God. Now, which one sounds more fallacious?
And God doesn't need to be detected. We don't need to know his secrets. We're not superior to him, and we don't need to question Him.
You're making the common misconception that evolution explains the origins of the universe, when in fact it doesn't. You're thinking of abiogenesis which is something completely different. ID sounds more fallacious.
God does need to be detectable if one is to claim it is scientifically plausible. Also, the moment you stop questioning is the moment you lose your intellect.
Well, I will have you know that, because of the liberal, progressive-controlled education industry here in the States, I have been taught Darwinism, Evolutionism, and all the other stupid crap that the secular progressives want shoved down our throats. It is a fact, though, that the "Big Bang" is a part of the scientific, secular explanation for the origin of life.
You're making the common misconception that evolution explains the origins of the universe, when in fact it doesn't. You're thinking of abiogenesis which is something completely different. ID sounds more fallacious.
God does need to be detectable if one is to claim it is scientifically plausible. Also, the moment you stop questioning is the moment you lose your intellect.
And your post barely came up after I responded to the previous one. Here's my answer to that. He doesn't need to be detected. It doesn't need to be proven scientifically plausible. And we don't need intellect. Everything that we ever have a genuine need to know is explained to us in the Bible. We don't need to question God. It seems that we're settling into the mindset lately that we're superior to God, and we need to know how He works, and does what he does. And we don't. We have more important things to worry about anyway.
And your post barely came up after I responded to the previous one. Here's my answer to that. He doesn't need to be detected. It doesn't need to be proven scientifically plausible. And we don't need intellect. Everything that we ever have a genuine need to know is explained to us in the Bible. We don't need to question God. It seems that we're settling into the mindset lately that we're superior to God, and we need to know how He works, and does what he does. And we don't. We have more important things to worry about anyway.
Well, there ya have it.
One question: Why would you be interested in scientific and philosophical debate with other humans if you admittedly, have so little to add to the conversation? Just read Genesis. We've got that, we've heard that.
Without decimating he crumbling pillars which still barely hold your reeling religion up, I'll simply say: good luck, sir. Now, leave the conversing to people who actually care about the subject - both to those inquisitive theistic minds and those non-believers you so loathe.
There is no doubting that evolution took place. (P.S. The saddest excuse for scientific inquiry is our public schools. If you didn't study evolution in college, you know very, very little about any of it.) But evolution doesn't inquire about deities. It can't say whether there is a God who set evolution in motion or there wasn't. Belief in evolution doesn't disregard your God existing, it just makes Genesis figurative and not literal. And if you, sir, believe Genesis is literal, you can be unquestioning in your belief and go through life so ignorantly, why would I care? But don't maim the conversation other people want to have because you're so thick-skulled that you can't view other evidences and facts with an open mind.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
