Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: Your oppinion on Creation?
You're a heretic for even asking this question! 5 5.75%
I believe in 7 day creation, but I don't think the days were literal 24 hour days. 16 18.39%
I believe that God created the earth, but used evolution to get us where we are now. 19 21.84%
Other 47 54.02%
Voters: 87. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-07-2007, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Somewhere along the path to where I'd like to be.
2,180 posts, read 5,432,343 times
Reputation: 829

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by stretch00 View Post
That is not a sign, that is nature.

Nature has evidence to show that a 6 day creation did not happen.
Nature doesn't dictate that a 6-day creation necessarily took 6 literal 24-hour days. In Genesis, the Bible simply defined a "day" as the time in which light shined upon the earth. If the earth was spinning slowly enough, it's possible that each "day" of creation could have lasted millions of what we now consider years.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-07-2007, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Pleasant Shade Tn
2,214 posts, read 5,593,010 times
Reputation: 561
Quote:
Originally Posted by WCRob View Post
Nature doesn't dictate that a 6-day creation necessarily took 6 literal 24-hour days. In Genesis, the Bible simply defined a "day" as the time in which light shined upon the earth. If the earth was spinning slowly enough, it's possible that each "day" of creation could have lasted millions of what we now consider years.
On this we definitely agree. 'Day' is such a broad term in the bible. Sometimes it refers to a 24 hour day, sometimes a generation of people ('in the days of those kings'), or an indefinite ammount of time (such as 'the day of the Lord'). The bible says also that a 'day to Jehovah is as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day'.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-07-2007, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Somewhere along the path to where I'd like to be.
2,180 posts, read 5,432,343 times
Reputation: 829
Quote:
Originally Posted by nvxplorer View Post
This is quite possible, but the answer is a paradox; if we were not intellectually capable of complete understanding, there would be no way we could know this.
Not true. Have a look at this page.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nvxplorer View Post
Not to be pedantic, but this isn't the case. Time began with the Big Bang.
How does the absence of time create time itself? I just don't understand how anyone can think that before the Big Bang existed, there was utter nothingness, and that all that we can observe suddenly "poofed" into existence out of that nothingness, caused by nothing. You seem to profess that we are capable of complete understanding, yet that's not something that even YOU can explain, or are willing to take a stab at.

The evidence of a creator is all around us. You just choose to ignore it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-07-2007, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Somewhere along the path to where I'd like to be.
2,180 posts, read 5,432,343 times
Reputation: 829
Quote:
Originally Posted by alicenavada View Post
On this we definitely agree. 'Day' is such a broad term in the bible. Sometimes it refers to a 24 hour day, sometimes a generation of people ('in the days of those kings'), or an indefinite ammount of time (such as 'the day of the Lord'). The bible says also that a 'day to Jehovah is as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day'.
I'm glad. See, there's common ground somewhere.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-07-2007, 03:07 PM
 
646 posts, read 1,613,542 times
Reputation: 202
Quote:
Originally Posted by WCRob View Post
Nature doesn't dictate that a 6-day creation necessarily took 6 literal 24-hour days. In Genesis, the Bible simply defined a "day" as the time in which light shined upon the earth. If the earth was spinning slowly enough, it's possible that each "day" of creation could have lasted millions of what we now consider years.
Doesn't matter if the day is 24 hours, a thousand years, or some other length of time.

It simply did not happen. Light did not exist before stars, man was not created as such, but rather evolved from other species.

Do you have any proof for your thought that the earth's rotation has gotten significantly faster over time?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-07-2007, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Montana
59 posts, read 244,430 times
Reputation: 50
Someone said earlier that everything is possible. Well, if that's true, then it is possible for something to be impossible. Oh........and WCRob, it appears we are on the same page.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-07-2007, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Somewhere along the path to where I'd like to be.
2,180 posts, read 5,432,343 times
Reputation: 829
Quote:
Originally Posted by stretch00 View Post
Doesn't matter if the day is 24 hours, a thousand years, or some other length of time.

It simply did not happen. Light did not exist before stars, man was not created as such, but rather evolved from other species.
Such is your opinion, and you're entitled to it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by stretch00 View Post
Do you have any proof for your thought that the earth's rotation has gotten significantly faster over time?
My response is a hypothesis, which by definition is "a concept that is not yet verified, but which, if true, could explain certain facts or phenomena." Note that I used the words "if", and "it's possible". I didn't assert it as a fact. Not to mention, how am I supposed to prove my thoughts? That's a pretty bizarre statement.

Last edited by Pathwalker; 06-07-2007 at 03:24 PM.. Reason: Oooops...How did that word get in there???
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-07-2007, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Somewhere along the path to where I'd like to be.
2,180 posts, read 5,432,343 times
Reputation: 829
Quote:
Originally Posted by beamseight View Post
Someone said earlier that everything is possible. Well, if that's true, then it is possible for something to be impossible. Oh........and WCRob, it appears we are on the same page.
Thank you. Why is it that the simplest logic confounds them?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-07-2007, 03:29 PM
 
646 posts, read 1,613,542 times
Reputation: 202
Quote:
Originally Posted by WCRob View Post
Such is your opinion, and you're not entitled to it.
That is a bit testy. Everybody is entitled to an opinion. But I am not stating opinion, I am relating scientific fact. You may choose to ignore that, but it does not change the actual fact.


Quote:
Originally Posted by WCRob View Post
My response is a hypothesis, which by definition is "a concept that is not yet verified, but which, if true, could explain certain facts or phenomena." Note that I used the words "if", and "it's possible". I didn't assert it as a fact. Not to mention, how am I supposed to prove my thoughts? That's a pretty bizarre statement.

No, sorry. Your thought does not qualify as a hypothesis, because it does not actually explain any "facts or phenomena."

Rather you are proposing something to try and fit a preconceived notion, namely that of a literal 6 day (of some length) creation.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-07-2007, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Pleasant Shade Tn
2,214 posts, read 5,593,010 times
Reputation: 561
Science can only guess about the order things came into existence and the length of time between...after all, they were'n't there. And their resources are admittedly flawed. God is perfect. I trust what he says.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:49 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top