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which had nothing whatsoever to do with the question I was answering, but then that's typical of your posting.
The point being that if you are going to begin your comments on a post with "Nope," you should know what you are talking about, which you so rarely do. Comments without context are just babble.
And does that have anything to do with what we were talking about concerning Jewish perception of the origin of the written Torah as clarified to the person who asked, or is this just more babble?
And does that have anything to do with what we were talking about concerning Jewish perception of the origin of the written Torah as clarified to the person who asked, or is this just more babble?
And let’s start over...What are you attempting to get at?...
It is the first 5 books of what we call the Old Testament: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus. Numbers and Deuteronomy.
btw for you and VovaLee, I was by no means stating my opinion on the proposition, just explaining what Judaism (and most Christians) teach.
The OT is not the same as the Tanakh.
The Torah was given to the Jewish people 3,331 years ago, which is 13 centuries before Crtnty ever even existed.
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Three points seem to have been presented as evidence of reincarnation in Jesus' teachings (aside from my view that Jesus was a Jew and never taught any of this). ....
Reincarnation is part of Judaism.
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Nope. The Torah was given to the Jewish people 3,331 years ago.
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what? its a collection of books aint it?
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no
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I didn't know that.
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Jews believe that the 5 books that constitute Torah (as opposed to Tanach which Christians know as the Old Testament) were given by Moses on inspiration from God.
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Your opinion is very valuable and important to us.
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ty nate, is it collection of 5 books or more like 5 chapters of a book?
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It is the first 5 books of what we call the Old Testament: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus. Numbers and Deuteronomy.
btw for you and VovaLee, I was by no means stating my opinion on the proposition, just explaining what Judaism (and most Christians) teach.
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And does that have anything to do with what we were talking about concerning Jewish perception of the origin of the written Torah as clarified to the person who asked, or is this just more babble?
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And let’s start over...What are you attempting to get at?...
If you follow the thread, I was just trying to clarify to Arach Angle what the Jewish perception of the origin of the written or strict definition of Torah is. VovaLee has some input on scholarly information concerning that which may be interesting in itself, but not appropriate to this thread.
If you follow the thread, I was just trying to clarify to Arach Angle what the Jewish perception of the origin of the written or strict definition of Torah is. VovaLee has some input on scholarly information concerning that which may be interesting in itself, but not appropriate to this thread.
and I am clarifying that the origin of the Tanakh (which includes the 5 books that are included on a physical Torah scroll) is from the giving of the Torah to the Jewish people 3,331 years ago.
the OT which you mention came much later, about 13 centuries later.
I clarify it because a person could read in your "clarification" that the OT and the 5 books from the Tanakh are the "same" and they are not. They are different.
Now that makes sense to me, it always has made sense, being that I at least know that Jews lived before this Earth was created, I don't know if I can say this of Gentiles, but I do believe it is true of Jews, and it just makes sense to me.
and I am clarifying that the origin of the Tanakh (which includes the 5 books that are included on a physical Torah scroll) is from the giving of the Torah to the Jewish people 3,331 years ago.
the OT which you mention came much later, about 13 centuries later.
I clarify it because a person could read in your "clarification" that the OT and the 5 books from the Tanakh are the "same" and they are not. They are different.
It is your entry that is NOW confusing or confused, I'm not sure which. Just exactly WHAT was given 3,381 years ago? Because it is NOT Tanach.
It is your entry that is NOW confusing or confused, I'm not sure which. Just exactly WHAT was given 3,381 years ago? Because it is NOT Tanach.
Ya know, the law and the prophets have always been even before the giving of the law at the Mountain.
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