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Old 10-18-2011, 11:27 PM
 
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Old 10-19-2011, 12:28 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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I think many older/retired people no matter what their education level is, may find PT jobs extremely limited. Just what exactly does a 60 or 70 something think they will find for employment. A job at NASA or perhaps a consultant job for a major company in this country. No they won't. The Walmart Greeter and Security Guard jobs, some Teacher Asst if your lucky and maybe a job like I have at a Rental Car Company-Driving. My point is there are very few to next to nothing for jobs for us. My PT job is everything previously described by a poster and has become demoralizing, but its all there is where I live until I leave here.

So you make do with what little there is or you get nothing in this day and age. That Walmart Greeter may very well be a Retired Teacher or a Cashier. From all walks of life. They just need a supplemental part time job after retirement and thats whats available to them.
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Old 10-19-2011, 03:36 AM
 
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I think many older/retired people no matter what their education level is, may find PT jobs extremely limited. Just what exactly does a 60 or 70 something think they will find for employment. A job at NASA or perhaps a consultant job for a major company in this country. No they won't. The Walmart Greeter and Security Guard jobs, some Teacher Asst if your lucky and maybe a job like I have at a Rental Car Company-Driving. My point is there are very few to next to nothing for jobs for us. My PT job is everything previously described by a poster and has become demoralizing, but its all there is where I live until I leave here.

So you make do with what little there is or you get nothing in this day and age. That Walmart Greeter may very well be a Retired Teacher or a Cashier. From all walks of life. They just need a supplemental part time job after retirement and thats whats available to them.
Best not to retire, then!

I know what you mean about a job being demoralizing. My dh and I both are well-educated, with lots of experience, and both have jobs that are way below our qualifications. However, we still have 2 teens to raise, and, we do enjoy eating. Yes, its a habit I guess we picked up somewhere.

I'm sitting here right now trying to do a telephone job, its all but dried up. I used to easily make $800-$1000/month, now I'm lucky to make $300-$400/month. And I do mean lucky, I work from home, at least I don't have commuting expenses on top of earning next to nothing!

Those Money Magazine articles about how we're all supposed to start our own business, use our 401K, turn a hobby into a business, isn't that a load of crap? We're just trying to survive!
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Old 10-19-2011, 04:55 AM
 
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What kind of telephone job do you have, Marylee? I'm not interested in trying to work from home myself, but I didnt realize there were any such jobs by which you could make $$$ like that nowadays.
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Old 10-19-2011, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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I think many older/retired people no matter what their education level is, may find PT jobs extremely limited. Just what exactly does a 60 or 70 something think they will find for employment. A job at NASA or perhaps a consultant job for a major company in this country. No they won't. The Walmart Greeter and Security Guard jobs, some Teacher Asst if your lucky and maybe a job like I have at a Rental Car Company-Driving. My point is there are very few to next to nothing for jobs for us. My PT job is everything previously described by a poster and has become demoralizing, but its all there is where I live until I leave here.

So you make do with what little there is or you get nothing in this day and age. That Walmart Greeter may very well be a Retired Teacher or a Cashier. From all walks of life. They just need a supplemental part time job after retirement and thats whats available to them.
That is a good description of today's grim reality. Many younger people are taking the part-time jobs faute de mieux which leaves fewer such jobs available to retirees.
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Old 10-19-2011, 07:24 AM
 
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That is a good description of today's grim reality. Many younger people are taking the part-time jobs faute de mieux which leaves fewer such jobs available to retirees.
By coincidence, I read an article yesterday that stated many retirees and older people are nowadays taking the part-time jobs that used to be open primarily to younger people, leaving fewer such jobs for the younger people.
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Old 10-19-2011, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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By coincidence, I read an article yesterday that stated many retirees and older people are nowadays taking the part-time jobs that used to be open primarily to younger people, leaving fewer such jobs for the younger people.
I think we are both right, although that might seem contradictory at first glance. In a time of high unemployment, there will be increased competition for available jobs of all types, full-time and part-time. So each age group is competing for the part-time jobs. It seems logical to me that some people in each age group will be successful, thus making it harder for others in each age group to find what they are looking for since the demand for jobs exceeds the supply of jobs right now.
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Old 10-19-2011, 07:59 AM
 
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Yes, I agree. That's probably why older people are complaining that younger people are taking all their jobs and younger people are complaining that older people are taking all their jobs.
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Verde Valley AZ
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texasfirewheel, when you actually become a big box store greeter, then let's talk about how you feel about doing the job.

You obviously will not be taking the job, so it's quite easy and flip for you to say you would actually do the job for any length of time or even ever at all. Quite easy for you to say you would be a big box store greeter, when it is never a true choice that you will be facing.

I see you don't dare touch the fast-food job at McDonald's, Burger King, or Wendy's.
When I started at Wal Mart I was a greeter. It was okay. I met a lot of people and there's more to being a greeter than saying "Hi" and "Bye". My problem was that I got bored with it and transferred to cashier. Greeter is an easy job, most of them sit on a stool all day...but they need a note from their doc that says they can't be on their feet all the time...and the ones at my store have been doing it for years.

Personally I wouldn't even think about working at McDonalds, Burger King or Wendys. Reason being I spent over 30 years of my life working in restaurants and I DON'T want to work with food anymore. I guess I'd do it if I were really desperate.
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:59 AM
 
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texasfirewheel, when you actually become a big box store greeter, then let's talk about how you feel about doing the job.

You obviously will not be taking the job, so it's quite easy and flip for you to say you would actually do the job for any length of time or even ever at all. Quite easy for you to say you would be a big box store greeter, when it is never a true choice that you will be facing.

I see you don't dare touch the fast-food job at McDonald's, Burger King, or Wendy's.
Omygoodness, I missed susanra's post until someone else copied it.

You're so very wrong (and rude), susanra. I'd take any job I could if I needed work. I've posted, on the Employment forum, about how the company for which I worked closed down and I couldnt find another job right away. So I went to some realtors and offered to clean their vacant, repossessed houses dirt-cheap.

It was the middle of the summer in Houston and most of those houses had no electricity, so you know it was a miserable job -- especially the way that some of those people lived (cats but no litterboxes, dogs that were never taken out to poop, etc). But I worked very hard, at that very disgusting manual work, very long hours seven days a week -- and did such a great job that I soon had more work than I could handle.

I found a job in my original field 6-7 months later, but I actually considered continuing in the house-cleaning business. It really was unpleasant work at times but it was also turning out to be very profitable. And, at the end of the day, I could fall asleep (dead tired) satisfied that I'd done an honest day's work.

And, when I've been between other jobs, I've done a lot of other less-than-pleasant work: washing incontinent old people's bedsheets and clothing for a small group home that couldnt afford to repair its washer; cleaning dog runs and exercise areas for a veterinarian at night; washing and disinfecting (on hands and knees) that veterinarian's floors; and other tasks just as undesirable.

In contrast, being a WalMart greeter or working at a fast-food place sounds very desirable -- and I'd jump at either one if I needed the $$$. (That day may come too.). But there werent any such jobs available when I was looking for work. So I made my own work, cleaning filthy houses, washing filthy clothing/bedding and cleaning up dog poop. There are always jobs that no one else wants to do.
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