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First my daughter in-laws mom got it ... she is still hospitalized ,doing ok but O2 levels are not high enough to be released ....then my ex wife got it ....she works at a nyc hospital so they took her right in ...because she was still early on they gave her some kind of cocktail of drugs .... within 2 days she responded well and her O2 levels went up enough to be released .
On the other hand my daughter in-laws father was home ...he had a fever and was tired all week ...he put off going to the er ....he took a nap yesterday and died ......
The kids had to tell my daughter in-laws mom about her husband Passing away ...what a mess.
Very difficult now for the kids to deal with because her parents never did their Power of attorney or wills
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Why is hypertension a problem with a respiratory illness like this?
No one is completely sure, but t's by far and away the biggest single risk factor. It was initially thought that taking ACE inhibitors (a class of drug used to treat hypertension) might have been the risk factor rather than the hypertension itself, but now it looks like people with hypertension who aren't on ACE inhibitors are at equally great risk. Why hypertension is such a risk factor is one of the many mysteries of SARS-CoV-2 we haven't solved yet.
For perspective: Nearly 1.25 million people are killed in car accidents each year. That means, on average, auto accidents cause 3,287 deaths per day. An additional 20-50 million people are injured or disabled. More than half of all road traffic deaths occur among young adults ages 15-44.Oct 17, 2019
I'm not saying lets do our best to contain. But some consideration for the economy, people needing to work has to be taken.
I suggest that people who keep comparing codvid-19 death rate with flu and car accident death rates should read articles like this one:
The scary thing about COVID-19 and the reason why entire regions have to remain shut down is that the virus is extremely contagious. Also, it doesn’t have a treatment, at least not yet, and, as a result, it could cripple medical systems for weeks to come, including America’s. Recovery for hospitalized cases can take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks. Hospitals that wouldn’t have the resources to treat COVID-19 patients might not be able to handle many other life-threatening conditions that are still out there, including car accidents and the flu
The flu kills people every year, but it’s never flooded hospitals like COVID-19 might. There are drugs and vaccines to handle flu epidemics, and the resulting complications are rarely as serious as those of the coronavirus. Hospitals aren’t overwhelmed, and everyone can be taken care of without shutting down the economy.
The car accident comparison is even more pointless, unless every car accident in the US occurred at the same time. If you can pass “car accident” to anyone in your family, circle of friends, and coworkers as fast as you can pass the novel coronavirus outbreak, then you have a real problem. In real life, no matter how many car accidents happen a year, hospitals will not be overrun and they’ll be able to care for all of the victims.
I believe Fauci & Birks are 100% correct regarding "stop the virus".
But they are leading us down a path that may have serious negative consequences that they do not necessarily understand or appreciate. They have a singular focus, geared to their enormous expertise, and that's "stop the virus" at any expense.
What if two years from now, the economy remains trashed. Jobs, stock markets, businesses, goals, dreams, are ruined due to the Great Shutdown?
And at the same time, all of the old people that we "saved" are probably dead in two years anyway. Because they are OLD and have very serious, known health problems.
Was it worth it then? It's too early to say. History will decide.
Another, “old people are expendable” line of thought. I sure hope it is worth it to save the old folks, because shutting down the economy is costing me money.
Another, “old people are expendable” line of thought. I sure hope it is worth it to save the old folks, because shutting down the economy is costing me money.
What age do you consider to be old and expendable?
But is it just a matter of put everybody back to work and the deaths will be mainly elderly and health compromised people and everything will be OK?
Putting everyone back out there together is going to spread this like wildfire. And it is killing the younger and healthy as well; just not at the same rate. How good would that be for the economy?
Im pretty sure younger people and kids are going to suffer quite and bit in an extended tanked economy. And some will die as a result.
But you are welcome to have them all come and live with you and take care of them vs. asking the broke govt to do more.
Heck yeah, just check out most any thread on these forums and you'll find dozens of people pontificating over the various aspects of this thing, from economics to health. They don't just predict things with an IMHO attached, so these people must be real experts. I for one am thankful to have them in our midst.....
No one is completely sure, but t's by far and away the biggest single risk factor. It was initially thought that taking ACE inhibitors (a class of drug used to treat hypertension) might have been the risk factor rather than the hypertension itself, but now it looks like people with hypertension who aren't on ACE inhibitors are at equally great risk. Why hypertension is such a risk factor is one of the many mysteries of SARS-CoV-2 we haven't solved yet.
Is hypertension considered a co-morbidity in addition to a risk factor? Ie, is it really the hypertension or the various co-morbidities long standing hypertension causes (and may be undetected, particularly with untreated hypertension) that are the problem?
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