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Old 10-18-2023, 07:22 PM
 
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Old 10-20-2023, 10:00 AM
 
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Don't know if this is good or bad. Rochester courthouse hosts job fair. 1000 turn out. I don't know if they were ordered to attend. In my day, my friends and I couldn't wait to get a job and start working. There was no need for job fairs. The job availability hasn't changed. There's still plenty of great jobs. The difference is people don't want to work anymore.

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Old 10-20-2023, 05:54 PM
 
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Don't know if this is good or bad. Rochester courthouse hosts job fair. 1000 turn out. I don't know if they were ordered to attend. In my day, my friends and I couldn't wait to get a job and start working. There was no need for job fairs. The job availability hasn't changed. There's still plenty of great jobs. The difference is people don't want to work anymore.

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It appears as though 2 different events have been conflated. The MSN article refers to a construction industries career fair for students in which 1,000 participated. A supposed “related” video link was of a job fair held at the City Courthouse put on by BOCES, Roc Workforce Development, U.S. Marine Corps, and local universities among its various partners and sponsors. This unrelated event probably occurred over the summer since the News 8 logo indicated the temp was 86 at 6:20.

From my observation, job fairs can be quite effective for filling entry level jobs especially where there may limited awareness between hiring companies and entities and those needing jobs. However, from my experience they are much less effective for filling mid-senior level positions as I attended many local and out of town professional employment recruitment events and job fairs with no hits or serious leads (wasted a lot of money and preparation time in the process).

Sustainable historically low unemployment rates suggest that people want to work. I sincerely hope that these well intended events can help some people realize good opportunities that they may have had limited or no prior exposure and insight into.
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Old 10-20-2023, 06:37 PM
 
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It appears as though 2 different events have been conflated. The MSN article refers to a construction industries career fair for students in which 1,000 participated. A supposed “related” video link was of a job fair held at the City Courthouse put on by BOCES, Roc Workforce Development, U.S. Marine Corps, and local universities among its various partners and sponsors. This unrelated event probably occurred over the summer since the News 8 logo indicated the temp was 86 at 6:20.

From my observation, job fairs can be quite effective for filling entry level jobs especially where there may limited awareness between hiring companies and entities and those needing jobs. However, from my experience they are much less effective for filling mid-senior level positions as I attended many local and out of town professional employment recruitment events and job fairs with no hits or serious leads (wasted a lot of money and preparation time in the process).

Sustainable historically low unemployment rates suggest that people want to work. I sincerely hope that these well intended events can help some people realize good opportunities that they may have had limited or no prior exposure and insight into.
There are so many great jobs available that you don't need an education for, that rely on common sense. No college debt needed. $100,000n income in your future. Who would want to be bought.
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Old 10-20-2023, 08:16 PM
 
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There are so many great jobs available that you don't need an education for, that rely on common sense. No college debt needed. $100,000n income in your future. Who would want to be bought.
Many of those jobs still need some from of trade skill development or training. Even with that, there needs to be some form of networking to even find out about said jobs. I think that aspect may get underestimated, if some have an "in" with those in said industries versus those that don't. So, these job fairs may serve that purpose as well.
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Old 10-21-2023, 07:43 AM
 
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Many of those jobs still need some from of trade skill development or training. Even with that, there needs to be some form of networking to even find out about said jobs. I think that aspect may get underestimated, if some have an "in" with those in said industries versus those that don't. So, these job fairs may serve that purpose as well.
I would much rather hire an employee who was proactive in finding his workplace, than someone who was coerced by an employer to sign up.
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Old 10-21-2023, 09:40 AM
 
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There are so many great jobs available that you don't need an education for, that rely on common sense. No college debt needed. $100,000n income in your future. Who would want to be bought.
I can’t speak to this.
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Old 10-21-2023, 10:43 AM
 
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I would much rather hire an employee who was proactive in finding his workplace, than someone who was coerced by an employer to sign up.
I don't know if it is so much coercion versus just being made aware of employment opportunities that are available and to show that there is a need that for employees in said industry.
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Old 10-21-2023, 10:44 AM
 
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I would much rather hire an employee who was proactive in finding his workplace, than someone who was coerced by an employer to sign up.
The reality is that a job fair is but just one of many channels used by employers and employment seekers for job fulfillment. Indeed, many jobs seekers find it necessary to pursue multiple paths to landing employment including use of the various online search tools, networking, volunteering, pursuing and following up on leads, training and improving skills, obtaining certifications, coaching, personal branding/ marketing, and more.

So in the instance someone is hired from a job fair, how can it be assumed they weren’t proactive in their employment search. To take it one step further who is to say that an employee who finds their workplace in this manner didn’t actively and aggressively pursue opportunities at said company through its other channels.

I’m probably speaking more to seeking conventional employment vs. income generating opportunities/ ventures where someone is not “bought.” I guess I’m not too up on or with this whole online hustle and social media influenced economy with 6 figure incomes at the ready out there apparently for anybody who can point and click. But perhaps I should get with it, lol…
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Old 10-21-2023, 11:02 AM
 
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The reality is that a job fair is but just one of many channels used by employers and employment seekers for job fulfillment. Indeed, many jobs seekers find it necessary to pursue multiple paths to landing employment including use of the various online search tools, networking, volunteering, pursuing and following up on leads, training and improving skills, obtaining certifications, coaching, personal branding/ marketing, and more.

So in the instance someone is hired from a job fair, how can it be assumed they weren’t proactive in their employment search. To take it one step further who is to say that an employee who finds their workplace in this manner didn’t actively and aggressively pursue opportunities at said company through its other channels.

I’m probably speaking more to seeking conventional employment vs. income generating opportunities/ ventures where someone is not “bought.” I guess I’m not too up on or with this whole online hustle and social media influenced economy with 6 figure incomes at the ready out there apparently for anybody who can point and click. But perhaps I should get with it, lol…
Yes, some going to the job fairs are being proactive, but the whole idea highlights a more relaxed attitude towards finding a job than previous generations.

I was speaking of a real conventional job. For instance most of the local trade unions are looking for apprentices. They will train you, and even pay you with benefits. Sure beats taking on debt.

I wasn't talking about on line gigs and hustles, but basically it comes down to the individual. The sky's the limit, but you have to at least show up.
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