Pearl momentum is spilling over to Broadway corridor (San Antonio, Anton: condo, neighborhood)

[Azure110]

Originally Posted by SAguy

Aldi's...LOL The expired and damaged good store, really?

I have my bets on HEB as they currently have the property to build a small neighborhood store. Perhaps, something similar to Walmart Neighborhood Market.

Hope not. You ever been to a HEB pantry store in Houston?

[teenwolf80]

Originally Posted by txtea

Moderator cut: orphaned Do you have any sources for those thousands and thousands of residential units being built downtown? You need to contact HEB's building and planning department and set them straight...you seem to have superior knowledge of what needs to be built and where. We are talking about the Pearl Brewery area here...and it is too close to Central Market to warrant building another store closer to it. Wishful thinking and reality are often not the same.

Can Plant Apartments
1800 Broadway
1221 Broadway
Mosaic

Those four alone being built in the Pearl/lower broadway area account for nearly 1,500 units. Then there is the Tobin Lofts, Big Tex redevelopment, and three other Southtown developments that being that total to over 3,000.

And that's not included the pre-planning developments including Graham Weston's big plans and the Hemisfair Park redevelopment.

A lot is planned, ex. book building residebtial high rise, that you and many have no clue about.

HEB has made it known they want to build a downtown store but not until the population figures get to the point where it makes building a store or stores financially viable.

[teenwolf80]

Originally Posted by MattTx

Moderator cut: orphaned Most will flock to Central Market as those already downtown do. HEB would not be stupid to build a regular store so close to CM in the downtown area.

Downtown is better suited for smaller stores like Aldi's. Said that many times though.

Moderator cut: orphaned HEB isn't going to sit on their hands and say: "hey, there's a central market miles away for these new downtown residents to shop at."

HEB wants to build a store downtown. But it's hasn't been financially feasible for HEB to do so with such a small downtown residebtial population.

Like I said, there are 3,000 plus residential units under construction as we speak and thousands more in pre-planning. This is just te urban core. From Southtown to the Pearl. From UTSA downtown to Cherry St.

[txtea]

Originally Posted by teenwolf80

Moderator cut: orphaned HEB isn't going to sit on their hands and say: "hey, there's a central market miles away for these new downtown residents to shop at."

HEB wants to build a store downtown. But it's hasn't been financially feasible for HEB to do so with such a small downtown residebtial population.

Like I said, there are 3,000 plus residential units under construction as we speak and thousands more in pre-planning. This is just te urban core. From Southtown to the Pearl. From UTSA downtown to Cherry St.

HEB wants to build a store downtown? They do? Says who? You??
You are getting off track here...we are talking about the Pearl Brewery momentum spilling over onto Broadway, per the title of this thread. If HEB wanted to build a store based on the planned development going on down there, they would do so. Doubt they will until the other stores around are overloaded. Maybe someday there will be enough people living in the area to warrant building a new store, but as mentioned already, a smaller store would make more sense than a HEB Plus. For now, Central Market is it...2 miles away. Big deal. Be nice if everyone had a grocery store across the street from their house, but it's not going to happen.

I believe it was Steven Tyler who said "Dream on, dream until your dreams come true."

[&heart]

Funny how this thread came out today. I visited the Pearl area (La Gloria) yesterday for the second time since moving down, the first was over a year ago when I was looking at some properties in the vicinity. Wow. It's crazy how much the area has exploded in the past year! You can definetely see development when driving down 281 but when you're actually on the ground walking around, it's amazing what's gone in. The next year looks very promising for the area

[lessQQmorePEWPEW]

Originally Posted by txtea

Central Market is 2 miles away..

do people still not know this, or are they really bad at playing coy?

Originally Posted by Chaka

However, Southtown is already booming, large scale projects already are finished and filled, and still HEB drags its feet.

i doubt it's booming. HEB and other businesses wouldnt drag their feet if it was.

or, perhaps, its just not needed, as others have already mentioned that most in that and other areas close by already frequent the CM in alamo heights.

[teenwolf80]

Originally Posted by txtea

HEB wants to build a store downtown? They do? Says who? You??
You are getting off track here...we are talking about the Pearl Brewery momentum spilling over onto Broadway, per the title of this thread. If HEB wanted to build a store based on the planned development going on down there, they would do so. Doubt they will until the other stores around are overloaded. Maybe someday there will be enough people living in the area to warrant building a new store, but as mentioned already, a smaller store would make more sense than a HEB Plus. For now, Central Market is it...2 miles away. Big deal. Be nice if everyone had a grocery store across the street from their house, but it's not going to happen.

I believe it was Steven Tyler who said "Dream on, dream until your dreams come true."

Moderator cut: see note

I'm in the real estate development industry. But that's beyond the point. Just stating that so you know I'm not speaking out my you know what.

Besides that, HEB has stated publicly that they have a desire to build a store in the urban core. But that population figures are just not where they need to be for it to be feasible. My own opinion is that with all the housing being built and planned to be built will eventually allow for the population growth needed for heb to go through with a store.

Moderator cut: see note

[teenwolf80]

Originally Posted by &heart

Funny how this thread came out today. I visited the Pearl area (La Gloria) yesterday for the second time since moving down, the first was over a year ago when I was looking at some properties in the vicinity. Wow. It's crazy how much the area has exploded in the past year! You can definetely see development when driving down 281 but when you're actually on the ground walking around, it's amazing what's gone in. The next year looks very promising for the area

You can say that again.

Aside from what you see there now being constructed there is a multi story residential building going up next to 1221 Broadway, right off the Riverwalk. Also, Silver Ventures has plans for not only more residential development on their adjacent property (across the Riverwalk from the Pearl) but they also plan to build a hotel and museum of modern arts.

Then there's plans that I can get into because they still very preliminary.

You take all that and throw in the planned streetscape improvements to Broadway and addition of the modern street car line and you got yourself a nice stew going.

P.s.

The new children's museum on broadway will have a great affect on the redevelopment of Broadway.

[Bo]

Since it's a point of contention in this thread, thought some of you might like to know that the thread below from last year has links to articles with specifics about HEB's position on a downtown store.

//www.city-data.com/forum/san-a...ntown-heb.html

[01Snake]

Originally Posted by teenwolf80

I'm in the real estate development industry. But that's beyond the point. Just stating that so you know I'm not speaking out my you know what.

Did you also stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?

Originally Posted by teenwolf80

But that population figures are just not where they need to be for it to be feasible. My own opinion is that with all the housing being built and planned to be built will eventually allow for the population growth needed for heb to go through with a store.

Isn't that essentially what txtea just stated?