Is There Still Any Blacks Left In San Francisco Despite What Census Report States ? (Los Angeles: insurance, house)

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by pmac6270

But just try and justify a counter argument by saying that black men get profiled all the time and it should be expected.

Nobody disputes that. Black men get it worse than anybody. But it's also a fish-out-of-water thing that gets cops irritable in many different neighborhoods, which reaches across certain identifiable groups. If they don't know you, they just might heckle you.

[pmac6270]

King Georges do you have any counter arguments or just trolling commennntttss???? Please present some facts in response. thank you.

[pmac6270]

I was a fish out of water in all of SF being one of the few stylishly dressed black men in all of SF. So maybe I should have been profiled all over that town considering SF doesn't have any middle class blacks.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by pmac6270

I was a fish out of water in all of SF being one of the few stylishly dressed black men in all of SF. So maybe I should have been profiled all over that town considering SF doesn't have any middle class blacks.

SF cops aren't known for bothering yuppies. If they have been in the habit of bothering black guys, the city, SFPD and Chronicle diligently bury such information. Anything to keep up a facade of a squeaky clean tourist jewel.

[Malloric]

Originally Posted by pmac6270

bigdumbgod you sir are an idiot. Veganwriter said that he was stopped in the middle of the day in a black neighborhood for doing errands. So today a black man in his 50's can't even use an ATM in a black neighborhood without being profiled? We all know that most police officers and firefighters in SF do not live there. So they come to San Francisco on a daily basis for work and just assume all black people are evil. Yes SF has Black neighborhoods, but it's mostly section 8 housing in Hunter's Point or western addition. So the answer to the original posters question is yes SF has black people left, just poor ones. So go ahead and try to defend your crappy town. SF pisses me off on many different levels and I'm going to tell anyone who asks just how crappy it is.

Look in the mirror lately?

Mid-Market is not a black neighborhood, but it is neighborhood where a lot of drug sales go on. A dude walks up and down street for a considerable amount of time approaching people at random in an area known for drug activity for no apparent reason. So two cops doing their job approach him and ask him what he is doing. They don't man-handle him and throw him face first into a wall before frisking him, handcuffing him and throwing him in the back of a police car. They ask what he is doing, make a few jokes, and go on about their way. Good for the SFPD doing their job.

The black diaspora isn't just San Francisco. It's in Los Angeles as well. Even in Oakland, the blacks are moving out. Nor is it just California. Middle-class blacks are leaving so-called black neighborhoods and defusing into society at large. I'm not so sure that's even a problem. Racism is one of the motivating factors that perpetuates racial enclaves. Are middle-class blacks moving out because housing cost are too high and they are being driven out and can't find another suitable black enclave to reside in? Or are they voluntarily moving out of black enclaves because they don't have a preference to live in them anymore?

[dmode]

Originally Posted by pmac6270

I was a fish out of water in all of SF being one of the few stylishly dressed black men in all of SF. So maybe I should have been profiled all over that town considering SF doesn't have any middle class blacks.

What's up with New Yorkers constantly trolling the SF board? From NYCtoSF to pmac6270 with lame posts.

[veganwriter]

Woah ... fellas ... no ... that's not what I meant.

1.) It wasn't a "black" neighborhood ... it was downtown San Francisco ... Market Street between Powell and First ... the very heart of downtown. That's anything BUT a black neighborhood. ((chuckle))

2.) In regards to the comment:

"What you just described describes the type of racial profiling that literally EVERY police department in the nation does. Yeah it's stupid, but why point fingers at SF alone?"

What's that old saying ... "two wrongs don't make a right"?

What I'm trying to point out that when things have sunk to the point where it's alarming to a police officer that strangers are talking to one another ... then the norm is alienation.

With alienation, compassion disappears. Without compassion, people run the risk of losing a good sense of self so we're more prone to addictions and alcoholism ... anything "outside" our self that we hope will fill us... excessive television watching .. etc...

From that point, life has less meaning ... humans are social animals. Hey ... let me let an expert explain it.... (Oh, and make sure you skip the ad)


Society, Trauma, and Addiction

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by veganwriter

With alienation, compassion disappears. Without compassion, people run the risk of losing a good sense of self so we're more prone to addictions and alcoholism ... anything "outside" our self that we hope will fill us... excessive television watching .. etc...

From that point, life has less meaning ... humans are social animals.

And then we get addicted to C-D and disappear forever.

[westcoastbabe]

As a African-American female, I would gladly relocate to San Francisco area anyday from Charlotte, NC if the doggone cost of living wasnt a factor. San Francisco really is a beautful city filled with diversity, great shopping, cafe's and coffees shops, museums, culture, you name it. Gorgeous scenery I mean it does not get any better than he bay area....I actually work in banking and my manager and I frequently visit every quarter...It really is a beautiful city.

[veganwriter]

Dear "westcoastbabe"...

Suit yourself.
It IS a beautiful place .. TO VISIT. But have you ever lived here??
It's not what it seems.
It takes about a year here to start to feel the, "City Shadow."

I know Charlotte, NC ain't exactly a paragon of awareness ... but trust me, neither is San Francisco.

If you really want to feel diversity and creativity, I strongly suggest you look at the East Bay. (Berkeley, Oakland, Alameda, Albany ... etc...)

Those places aren't what they used to be neither ... but you'll feel a LOT more comfortable, less stressed, and you'll connect with more "like minds" of all skin colors in the East Bay.

San Francisco may be better than Charlotte ... but the people who left North and South Carolina, Idaho, Nebraska... et all ... moved here!
You'll not be escaping anything. In fact, you may find it harder to hold onto your job.