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If you read all my replies you will see that I have spend time outside of SF (the 7x7 toilet). Truth is that the peninsula is the most overpriced suburbia (sitting on a fault line) in United States all the way from Brisbane to San Jose. Which offers more? Palo Alto/Mountain View/Sunnyvale vs Santa Monica/Beverly Hills/Westside? (by the way i'm not even a fan of LA!)
Wow, so you are a 20 something and already bitter about life. I honestly feel bad for you. It must really suck to have so much negative energy at such a young age. I hope you find happiness some day. I'm out and will not engage further with this negativity and well of despair. Good luck...
If you read all my replies you will see that I have spend time outside of SF (the 7x7 toilet). Truth is that the peninsula is the most overpriced suburbia (sitting on a fault line) in United States all the way from Brisbane to San Jose. Which offers more? Palo Alto/Mountain View/Sunnyvale vs Santa Monica/Beverly Hills/Westside? (by the way i'm not even a fan of LA!)
Actually, a lot of the Peninsula sits on solid bedrock mountains, we're in much better shape down here than most of the Bay Area
If you read all my replies you will see that I have spend time outside of SF (the 7x7 toilet). Truth is that the peninsula is the most overpriced suburbia (sitting on a fault line) in United States all the way from Brisbane to San Jose. Which offers more? Palo Alto/Mountain View/Sunnyvale vs Santa Monica/Beverly Hills/Westside? (by the way i'm not even a fan of LA!)
Having spent some time in SF a few weeks ago as a tourist coming from NYC I can say this.Nice place to visit, but I'm glad I don't live there. Pretty area but thats about it for me. Weather was cold,windy,,city seemed dirty, homeless in Wharf area seemed everywhere at night. The steep hills made walking a workout.Great historical area to explore but for me one trip there was enough. In contrast I found San Diego a nice small city if you don't mind traffic. LA was one big traffic jam so we skipped it. To each his own but I'll keep nyc, nothing Ive seen compares to it... Also, Atlanta might be LAST on my list of cities to live in, expensive, sweltering summers, bad traffic issues.
^GTFO, we didn't ask for a New Yorker's opinion rating on California. And as for LA, don't worry, we know you were overwhelmed by its massive neverending sprawling size that makes New York look tiny.
"Nothing compares to NYC", umm i think you meant nothing compares to Manhattan, because really anything outside that island isn't any that special really. People only fly to New York State for that one borough where as people fly to California for its mountains, beaches, AND world class cities. Staten Island and Queens are just "anywhere else USA".
You don't want anyone coming into the California forum to give their opinion, especially from a New Yorker, yet you are doing exactly the same.
This is nothing more than a troll post to get back at the guy who dared give his opinion.
^GTFO, we didn't ask for a New Yorker's opinion rating on California. And as for LA, don't worry, we know you were overwhelmed by its massive neverending sprawling size that makes New York look tiny.
"Nothing compares to NYC", umm i think you meant nothing compares to Manhattan, because really anything outside that island isn't any that special really. People only fly to New York State for that one borough where as people fly to California for its mountains, beaches, AND world class cities. Staten Island and Queens are just "anywhere else USA".
I like Staten Island. It's a nice change from Manhattan, which is hyper-urban.
You don't want anyone coming into the California forum to give their opinion, especially from a New Yorker, yet you are doing exactly the same.
This is nothing more than a troll post to get back at the guy who dared give his opinion.
Why not? I agree that San Francisco is only sort of worth it to visit but a horrible place to live. I would take Brooklyn over Oakland/Berkeley. I would take Queens over BART suburbs of Union City/Fremont/Milpitas. I would take Staten Island over Marin (much more affordable and free ferry to Manhattan). Truth is that SF Bay Area is a overpriced boring ****hole that doesn't offer what NYC's outer boroughs do for a lower price, better transit system, and true diversity.
"Close to 30 percent of the Bay Area’s residents aren’t able to make ends meet as they contend with high housing costs, suggesting poverty is more widespread in the region than official reports indicate"
OP is right. San Francisco has become so smug, people who live there (and many other places in the Bay Area) don't realize how ****ing smug the whole area has become.
You have the following main categories of denizen who calls SF home.
Liberal/"Saving The World" SJW Warrior - Usually found in SOMA. The hipster, gay rights, no GMO, OCCUPY wall street, down with the 1%, I'm a social media master at a startup trying to bring fresh water to the 3rd world, my girlfriend doesn't shave her pits, but she's a philosophy major so she's so much more than hygiene, I claim to be agnostic/atheist but was probably raised catholic, and I only eat at Trader Joes or Whole Foods crowd. These people can be condescending, and annoying, and the worst part about it is, if you try to shoooo them away, they will continue to berate your eating habits, and political leanings because they think they're trying to save you. "Also **** the South, bunch of uneducated, bible thumping hill billies, unlike myself who is enlightened, educated, and high and mighty." Damn, these liberal F**** can be annoying.
White Collar Aristocracy - Usually found in Danville, San Rafael, Blackhawk, or parts of Marin County but works in the city so you'll seem these types daily. The "I only drive german luxury sedans", my house is 3,000 sqft in a fortress community, no black people or hispanics in my neighborhood or white flight, who cares how foie gras is made, my boat is docked at the harbor and I use it 3 times a year, WASP to the bone, I cashed out all my stock at a tech startup that never made any profit, my 2 kids and wife (who is 15 years younger than me) are awesome, there is a gate blocking entrance to my neighborhood even though my city was ranked #1 safest city in all of the country, type of crowd. These are the type of people to cut you off on the road, or in line at the store, because... well, they're just more important than you, and **** you, you peasant. I'll talk about my wealth, and tell you how much everything I bought cost just because it makes me feel good. BTW, my kid got into Harvard. Did you hear that? Harvard.
City Lover Professional - The I love the city life because I can get groceries at 2am, ride the MUNI back home from the bar, looks down upon "birthers" living in their boring burb bungalows, hanging out at the trendiest bar in the city dropping $25 a drink, wear a suit when I go to the local CVS because I just got off work, and I'm going to walk home to my 5th story 1 bedroom apartment that I pay $3,600 a month for in the Tenderloin, there's no elevator but that's okay it's "cardio", but just in case I have my 2 year membership to 24 hour fitness where I go workout with my girlfriend or boyfriend, or just friends in general. Except I have none of those because I spend too much time at work, and I'm really anti-social because I'm jaded by society in general and I trust no one.
Those are the types of smug denizens I've encountered numerous times in San Francisco. Strangely enough, I've met people who are a mix of 2 or even 3 of the above categories.
OP is right. San Francisco has become so smug, people who live there (and many other places in the Bay Area) don't realize how ****ing smug the whole area has become.
You have the following main categories of denizen who calls SF home.
Liberal/"Saving The World" SJW Warrior - Usually found in SOMA. The hipster, gay rights, no GMO, OCCUPY wall street, down with the 1%, I'm a social media master at a startup trying to bring fresh water to the 3rd world, my girlfriend doesn't shave her pits, but she's a philosophy major so she's so much more than hygiene, I claim to be agnostic/atheist but was probably raised catholic, and I only eat at Trader Joes or Whole Foods crowd. These people can be condescending, and annoying, and the worst part about it is, if you try to shoooo them away, they will continue to berate your eating habits, and political leanings because they think they're trying to save you. "Also **** the South, bunch of uneducated, bible thumping hill billies, unlike myself who is enlightened, educated, and high and mighty." Damn, these liberal F**** can be annoying.
White Collar Aristocracy - Usually found in Danville, San Rafael, Blackhawk, or parts of Marin County but works in the city so you'll seem these types daily. The "I only drive german luxury sedans", my house is 3,000 sqft in a fortress community, no black people or hispanics in my neighborhood or white flight, who cares how foie gras is made, my boat is docked at the harbor and I use it 3 times a year, WASP to the bone, I cashed out all my stock at a tech startup that never made any profit, my 2 kids and wife (who is 15 years younger than me) are awesome, there is a gate blocking entrance to my neighborhood even though my city was ranked #1 safest city in all of the country, type of crowd. These are the type of people to cut you off on the road, or in line at the store, because... well, they're just more important than you, and **** you, you peasant. I'll talk about my wealth, and tell you how much everything I bought cost just because it makes me feel good. BTW, my kid got into Harvard. Did you hear that? Harvard.
City Lover Professional - The I love the city life because I can get groceries at 2am, ride the MUNI back home from the bar, looks down upon "birthers" living in their boring burb bungalows, hanging out at the trendiest bar in the city dropping $25 a drink, wear a suit when I go to the local CVS because I just got off work, and I'm going to walk home to my 5th story 1 bedroom apartment that I pay $3,600 a month for in the Tenderloin, there's no elevator but that's okay it's "cardio", but just in case I have my 2 year membership to 24 hour fitness where I go workout with my girlfriend or boyfriend, or just friends in general. Except I have none of those because I spend too much time at work, and I'm really anti-social because I'm jaded by society in general and I trust no one.
Those are the types of smug denizens I've encountered numerous times in San Francisco. Strangely enough, I've met people who are a mix of 2 or even 3 of the above categories.
This is so accurate, inb4 bay area snobs flippin' out
OP is right. San Francisco has become so smug, people who live there (and many other places in the Bay Area) don't realize how ****ing smug the whole area has become.
You have the following main categories of denizen who calls SF home.
Liberal/"Saving The World" SJW Warrior - Usually found in SOMA. The hipster, gay rights, no GMO, OCCUPY wall street, down with the 1%, I'm a social media master at a startup trying to bring fresh water to the 3rd world, my girlfriend doesn't shave her pits, but she's a philosophy major so she's so much more than hygiene, I claim to be agnostic/atheist but was probably raised catholic, and I only eat at Trader Joes or Whole Foods crowd. These people can be condescending, and annoying, and the worst part about it is, if you try to shoooo them away, they will continue to berate your eating habits, and political leanings because they think they're trying to save you. "Also **** the South, bunch of uneducated, bible thumping hill billies, unlike myself who is enlightened, educated, and high and mighty." Damn, these liberal F**** can be annoying.
White Collar Aristocracy - Usually found in Danville, San Rafael, Blackhawk, or parts of Marin County but works in the city so you'll seem these types daily. The "I only drive german luxury sedans", my house is 3,000 sqft in a fortress community, no black people or hispanics in my neighborhood or white flight, who cares how foie gras is made, my boat is docked at the harbor and I use it 3 times a year, WASP to the bone, I cashed out all my stock at a tech startup that never made any profit, my 2 kids and wife (who is 15 years younger than me) are awesome, there is a gate blocking entrance to my neighborhood even though my city was ranked #1 safest city in all of the country, type of crowd. These are the type of people to cut you off on the road, or in line at the store, because... well, they're just more important than you, and **** you, you peasant. I'll talk about my wealth, and tell you how much everything I bought cost just because it makes me feel good. BTW, my kid got into Harvard. Did you hear that? Harvard.
City Lover Professional - The I love the city life because I can get groceries at 2am, ride the MUNI back home from the bar, looks down upon "birthers" living in their boring burb bungalows, hanging out at the trendiest bar in the city dropping $25 a drink, wear a suit when I go to the local CVS because I just got off work, and I'm going to walk home to my 5th story 1 bedroom apartment that I pay $3,600 a month for in the Tenderloin, there's no elevator but that's okay it's "cardio", but just in case I have my 2 year membership to 24 hour fitness where I go workout with my girlfriend or boyfriend, or just friends in general. Except I have none of those because I spend too much time at work, and I'm really anti-social because I'm jaded by society in general and I trust no one.
Those are the types of smug denizens I've encountered numerous times in San Francisco. Strangely enough, I've met people who are a mix of 2 or even 3 of the above categories.
Where do the metrosexual hipster techie transplants fit into this?
The funny thing to me is that I'm guessing the majority of posters in this forum and in the Bay area in general aren't so easily categorized and probably don't fit into ANY of those groups.
It's much easier to despise and deride a group or category than it is to really get to know individuals. Takes a lot more work though.
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