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Old 08-23-2017, 02:44 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I do not like how many pro Isreal democrats are in the bay.

One can not be liberal and be pro Isreal.

Isreal is a war mongering country, who stole land from arabs, and mooches off US tax payers to fund their entire military.
They didn't steal land, they were given land. That is what happens when you lose wars, sometimes you lose land.
Second saying Israel is warmongering while ignoring random mass terror attacks from Palestine is partisan hyperbole at best.

Third we provide Israel as well as dozens of other countries with aid. Israel gets military aid since they are surrounded on all sides by countries that want to while them, both as a country and an ethnicity/religion, off the map. We have provided military aid to other countries that provide long and short term strategic value to the US.
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Old 08-23-2017, 03:04 PM
 
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Originally Posted by WizardOfRadical View Post
I do not like how many pro Isreal democrats are in the bay.

One can not be liberal and be pro Isreal.

Isreal is a war mongering country, who stole land from arabs, and mooches off US tax payers to fund their entire military.
Liberal AF and pro Israel here. LGBT people of the Bay Area would be thrown off buildings in the Gaza strip, but could and do hold parades in downtown Tel Aviv.
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Old 08-23-2017, 11:51 PM
 
Location: America's Expensive Toilet
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I do not like how many pro Isreal democrats are in the bay.

One can not be liberal and be pro Isreal.

Isreal is a war mongering country, who stole land from arabs, and mooches off US tax payers to fund their entire military.
You cannot be serious.
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Old 08-28-2017, 10:27 AM
 
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The first rule of statecraft is not to start wars you cannot win.
The Arab nations have done this on numerous occasions against Israel, and as a consequence, have lost land to the people they were trying to exterminate.
If the Israelis put down their weapons, every man, woman and child in Israel would be murdured.
If the Arabs put down their weapons, there would be peace and prosperity.
They prefer hate, apparently.
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:21 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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The OP's question really asks whether people are unthinking, lock-step partisans. I don't think I want to embrace ALL of anyone else's political viewpoint. I agree with some of the liberal ideas that are common in the Bay Area. But I try to consider issues on their own merit, not as part of a block of political philosophy.
I don't think the OP ever defined what he meant by "the Bay Area liberalism". Did he mean the pockets of extremism, or the more old-fashioned liberalism? OP has avoided responding to that question.
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