The San Francisco Trash/Needles/Poop in the Streets Containment Thread (litigation, eat)

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

what an inane comment.

An inane comment that ignores that SF, for all it is a media punching bag for homelessness, does not suffer the nation’s highest rate of that scourge, among several other reasons. Note the comment comes from a poster in NY where the homelessness rates the highest national numbers.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

Do the homeless start an inordinate number of property damaging fires in SF? They certainly do down in L.A. In fact, yet another crazed homeless person almost set a brush fire in Bel Air on Easter Sunday. Stay safe, SF residents, and don't be afraid to say something if you witness potential terrorist activity perpetrated by the homeless.

Oh, hey Tulemutt, how's it going buddy?

Below. Back to LA now?

Originally Posted by skygazer1

Not really, for a number of reasons. SF is a completely different physical environment. Most of the main homeless areas are "concrete jungle", very little open space with bush or woods to burn. And even those areas with vegetation nearby, Golden Gate park, Presidio, Twin Peaks, SFSU, get frequent fog, so are dripping with moisture.

Accurately stated.

[BlakeJones]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

An inane comment that ignores that SF, for all it is a media punching bag for homelessness, does not suffer the nation’s highest rate of that scourge, among several other reasons. Note the comment comes from a poster in NY where the homelessness rates the highest national numbers.

Actually, the huge numbers in NYC make San Fran look exceptionally bad. At last count NYC had 63,615 homeless, and I believe the number in SF is about 8,000. So in NYC with 8 times more homeless, we do not have the human poop on the sidewalks, we don't have aggressive beggars outside waiting for you to walk out of a store with your change, we don't have every car with something left on the seat getting broken into.

Don't get me wrong, our bozo mayor is trying his best to turn NYC into San Francisco but the homeless disfunction is a special kind of stupid in San Fran. The issue is what the homeless are allowed to get away with in San Francsico.

Excuses excuses bleeding heart permissiveness rooted in deep self guilt.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by BlakeJones

Actually, the huge numbers in NYC make San Fran look exceptionally bad. At last count NYC had 63,615 homeless, and I believe the number in SF is about 8,000. So in NYC with 8 times more homeless, we do not have the human poop on the sidewalks, we don't have aggressive beggars outside waiting for you to walk out of a store with your change, we don't have every car with something left on the seat getting broken into.

Don't get me wrong, our bozo mayor is trying his best to turn NYC into San Francisco but the homeless disfunction is a special kind of stupid in San Fran. The issue is what the homeless are allowed to get away with in San Francsico.

Excuses excuses bleeding heart permissiveness rooted in deep self guilt.

The difference between the two cities is NYC shelters their homeless ... critically driven by the difference in weather between the two cities. Last I checked, weather is not an ideological function.

[Finper]

So is San Francisco like terrible parents that feel guilty about working etc so they let their kids (homeless) run amok with no consequences or punishment ??? I guess the guilt dosn't stretch far enough to help them in any productive way. You reap what you sow SF.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Finper

So is San Francisco like terrible parents that feel guilty about working etc so they let their kids (homeless) run amok with no consequences or punishment ??? I guess the guilt dosn't stretch far enough to help them in any productive way. You reap what you sow SF.

San Francisco sucks at dealing with its homeless, no question about it.

It’s also true that the City has some pretty unique barriers to working the problem. Geography, weather, available space, raging economics of inequality evolving at a blisteringly fast rate, cost of land/structures, cost of services under the previously mentioned list of circumstances ... and more. Not an excuse. Just an explanation.

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I love this crock notion of inequality. What used to be called success via hard work and fortune is now called inequality.
You are not allowed to have success. You must have your spoils of war and hard work torn from you and distributed amongst the hard working peasants.

Vlad and Karl would be so proud of their acolytes here in California.

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Meanwhile, as I understand it, Tulemutt is lounging on his sumptuous yacht, tule'ing up and down the California coast, while homeless suffer in tents just on-shore. So much for equality. And the big fat super cats in SF donate a few ten thou to create navigation centers in lesser rich and connected citizenry neighborhoods to keep the homeless OUT of their backyard.

We will tax you all, so that we can dump our problems on your doorstep, and you will like it.

The irony is so thick it's literally iron you can't cut with a knife.

[skygazer1]

Originally Posted by BlakeJones

Don't get me wrong, our bozo mayor is trying his best to turn NYC into San Francisco but the homeless disfunction is a special kind of stupid in San Fran. The issue is what the homeless are allowed to get away with in San Francsico.

Excuses excuses bleeding heart permissiveness rooted in deep self guilt.

Yes, why doesn't our city enforce its own ordinances? Like strictly applying Article 1: Public Nuisances of the Police code, Section 23, to tear down those tent cities and send 'em all to jail for 6 months:

SEC. 23. OBSTRUCTING ANY STREET, SIDEWALK, PASSAGEWAY OR OTHER PUBLIC WAY PROHIBITED, SECOND OFFENSE WITHIN 24 HOURS; PENALTY; EXCEPTIONS.
(a) Any person who wilfully and substantially obstructs the free passage of any person or persons on any street, sidewalk, passageway or other public place within 24 hours after violating and being cited for said violation of Section 22 shall be in violation of this Section.
(b) Penalty. Any person who shall violate the provisions of this Section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, the penalty for which shall be imprisonment in the County Jail for a period not exceeding six months or by a fine of not more than $500, or by both such fine and imprisonment.
(c) Exceptions. (1) It is not intended that this Section shall apply where its application would result in an interference with or inhibition of any exercise of the constitutionally protected right of freedom of speech or assembly; and (2) nothing contained herein shall be deemed to prohibit persons from sitting on public benches or other public facilities provided for such purpose.

[CorporateCowboy]

Originally Posted by BlakeJones

Guilt. It's the #1 motivator in liberal circles, which is on a whole other level in SF

Gotta love online forums - lol!