Oakland Projects and Business Development (Orange, Montclair: public schools, live in, to move)

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

This is called delusion. Including PRIVATE school and CHARTER schools stats just to "decrease" the dropout rate to 28.1% actually shows how bad the Oakland public school system is.

Wrong yet again.

There isnt one private school included and CHARTER SCHOOLS HAVE TO BE INCLUDED BECAUSE THEY ARE FUNDED BY THE STATE and are indeed PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

*yawns* at the novice.

Here's an article that actually covers the PUBLIC school system dropout rate:
Study puts Oakland dropout rate at 52% / Mayor decries crisis -- district questions research accuracy - SFGate

That article is 5 years old and so your basically saying that Oakland has improved its drop rate from 52% to 28% in 3 short years.

BRAVO!

Here is the latest version of that data, there is nothing more recent:

Dropout Reporting (CA Dept of Education)

The Drop Out Rate for the Oakland Unified School District according to the latest data available is 28%.

Now run along.

Ahem. Check and mate.

Nice try at saving face.

But sorry, your face is on the floor.

[ssmaster]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

This is called delusion. Including PRIVATE school and CHARTER schools stats just to "decrease" the dropout rate to 28.1% actually shows how bad the Oakland public school system is.

If you're paying for a high end private school, and still over 1/4 of the students drop out, you know that your school system is a dropout factory. Even using your statistics, Oakland is still has one of the worst school districts in the STATE, even when you include Private and Charter schools!

Here's an article that actually covers the PUBLIC school system dropout rate:
Study puts Oakland dropout rate at 52% / Mayor decries crisis -- district questions research accuracy - SFGate

Ahem. Check and mate.

wrong as usual.that data does not include private schools.


your article is from april 2005.at best incorperating data from the 2004 graduating class.

[Communist Data]

Lol

[lmk1707]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

or

4) The statistic is correct, and a 30% dropout rate including private and charter schools is actually worse than expected, making Oakland STILL one of the Top 10 worst school districts in the entire STATE.

You're right, I didn't account for reading comprehension failure.

Dropouts by Grade Oakland Unified

[Mr. Fantastic]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Wrong yet again.

There isnt one private school included and CHARTER SCHOOLS HAVE TO BE INCLUDED BECAUSE THEY ARE FUNDED BY THE STATE and are indeed PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

*yawns* at the novice.

Speaking of novices, charter schools do receive state funding but they are not REGULATED to the same standard as public schools because charter schools usually have accountability for producing certain results, hence, you have to be accepted to many of them (and their internal programs), and not just anyone can go to a charter school program, they have to be accepted in many cases.

From Wikipedia:

While charter schools provide an alternative to other public schools, they are part of the public education system and are not allowed to charge tuition. Where enrollment in a charter school is over subscribed, admission is frequently allocated by lottery-based admissions. In a 2008 survey of charter schools, 59% of the schools reported that they had a waiting list, averaging 198 students.

Basically, these schools attract the TOP students and are supposed to have extremely low drop out rates.

When you factor these schools and still get a 28.1% dropout rate (i.e - one of the worst in the state), it really shows how bad the regular public schools are in Oakland (i.e - The ones you don't have to apply to and get lucky enough to be accepted into).

That article is 5 years old and so your basically saying that Oakland has improved its drop rate from 52% to 28% in 3 short years.

That article actually tracked only regular Oakland Public Schools. So 52% -> 28% is inaccurate. For that you'd have to find out what the regular public school dropout rate is. My guess is nothing has changed much.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

From Wikipedia:

Once again, all credibility gone.

Novice indeed.

I mean Wikipedia? Really?

LOL

[Mr. Fantastic]

Yup, it's hard to defend a crappy school system and high crime rate when talking about the overall health of a city. Best for your to scurry away now.

[silverkris]

Your constant Johnny-one-note rants about Oakland are tiresome, off-topic, and add little or nothing to the discussion.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

Yup, it's hard to defend a crappy school system and high crime rate when talking about the overall health of a city. Best for your to scurry away now.

The bottom line is you've been proven wrong yet again.

Oakland's drop out rate is actually 28% according to the latest data available. Yes that's high but the State of California has a drop out rate of 19%.

And actually Oakland's drop out rate fell from 36% to 28% in one year.

Oakland's 3 largest high schools actually have drop out rates that are actually below the state average.

Oakland Tech H.S. 17.9%
Oakland H.S. 13.9%
Skyline H.S. 11.4%

Dropout Reporting (CA Dept of Education)

So either refute this data or move on with your life.

[lmk1707]

Here's a new possible development - Oakland pot factories:

Oakland could go to pot in a big way with four proposed factory farms - latimes.com