Mexican flags in SJ (Nice: place to live, vs, car)

[mysticaltyger]

Originally Posted by gone down south

But then, I'm a 40-year middle class white guy, so none of the arguments in this thread are really about me, are they?

But that's a big difference. You're contributing to the tax base and came here legally. A good chunk of the people flying Mexican flags can't say the same.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by mysticaltyger

The globalists are working on these very issues. They want to dissolve the whole idea of national sovereignty so that people will put their allegiance toward a one world dictatorship disguised as a benevolent democracy.

Wait until the next financial crisis....they will advance their idea of a one world currency as the "solution". Their "solutions" always seem to involve centralizing power and control.

Precisely what the first Bush meant by "New World Order," no doubt. It troubled me then and it troubles me even more now. I don't want "global" anything. I want American! We used to be quite self-sufficient but for oil. Now, but for much of our food, we're in thrall to other countries and providing them with employment opportunities much needed here at home.

Follow the money!

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by jaijai

That's inevitable.
It comes with the territory.

Um, no it doesn't come with the territory. How did you come to that conclusion? There have always been immigrants, legal and illegal who have come here and this didn't come with their territory

Now I've just watched this topic mostly minus one smart remark I made earlier. However you sucked me in with that one. Now I am not going to say that all illegal immigrants of Hispanic decent hate this country. That would be painfully unfair to the many who have died in our wars fighting for this country. Let us not forget that.

However, what also can't be ignored is the fact that, at least in appearance, many (but again not all) seem to show little respect for the country they've moved into.

[Woundedknee]

I've flown the flag upside down since Obama's been in office.

[CamaroGuy]

Originally Posted by Gentoo

However, what also can't be ignored is the fact that, at least in appearance, many (but again not all) seem to show little respect for the country they've moved into.

To many of them just see the US as an ATM machine.

[jaijai]

Originally Posted by Gentoo

Um, no it doesn't come with the territory. How did you come to that conclusion? There have always been immigrants, legal and illegal who have come here and this didn't come with their territory

Now I've just watched this topic mostly minus one smart remark I made earlier. However you sucked me in with that one. Now I am not going to say that all illegal immigrants of Hispanic decent hate this country. That would be painfully unfair to the many who have died in our wars fighting for this country. Let us not forget that.

However, what also can't be ignored is the fact that, at least in appearance, many (but again not all) seem to show little respect for the country they've moved into.

It was general comment about freedom ... that there will always be people who abuse it ... which is true.

[gone down south]

Originally Posted by mysticaltyger

But that's a big difference. You're contributing to the tax base and came here legally. A good chunk of the people flying Mexican flags can't say the same.

Oooh, you're going to have back that statement up with facts, please.

[jaijai]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Precisely what the first Bush meant by "New World Order," no doubt. It troubled me then and it troubles me even more now. I don't want "global" anything. I want American! We used to be quite self-sufficient but for oil. Now, but for much of our food, we're in thrall to other countries and providing them with employment opportunities much needed here at home.

Follow the money!

John Lennon's "Imagine" has absolutely nothing to do with the "new world order"! (what a crude thought)
It has nothing to do with global politics, governance, etc., etc..

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by jaijai

John Lennon's "Imagine" has absolutely nothing to do with the "new world order"! (what a crude thought)
It has nothing to do with global politics, governance, etc., etc..

John Lennon was president?

[jaijai]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

John Lennon was president?

The new world order notion on this thread began as a response (by mystical tiger who your reply was in response to) to John Lennon's "Imagine" as though his vision had something to do with that notion.