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Old 08-23-2011, 09:24 AM
 
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A question to the OP and anyone else who wants to chime in....

How did you dispose of your defective CFL bulbs?

But please don't post the EPA's guidelines, I am aware of them.
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Old 08-23-2011, 09:29 AM
 
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I'll have to have you ship me some when my stash runs out
Would gladly do it but within the bill is this little gem:

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“HB 2510 would affirm that an incandescent light bulb that was manufactured in Texas and remained in the state would not be subject to federal law or regulation under the authority of the U.S. Congress to regulate interstate commerce.”
Now we would never think of breaking any laws, now would we? <wink.<wink>
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Old 08-23-2011, 09:35 AM
 
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Would gladly do it but within the bill is this little gem:

Now we would never think of breaking any laws, now would we? <wink.<wink>
It's a sad day in the U.S. when you can't ship a lightbulb out of state
I can see the charge now, transporting an incandescent light bulb across state lines
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Old 08-23-2011, 09:36 AM
 
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A question to the OP and anyone else who wants to chime in....

How did you dispose of your defective CFL bulbs?

But please don't post the EPA's guidelines, I am aware of them.
Most people will just toss them in the garbage, which is where the problem lies.
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Old 08-23-2011, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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It's a sad day in the U.S. when you can't ship a lightbulb out of state
I can see the charge now, transporting an incandescent light bulb across state lines
Or, you can buy incandescent bulbs in your own state.

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Most people will just toss them in the garbage, which is where the problem lies.
Unfortunately, yes. I won't be surprised to learn that people have been irresponsible and careless about throwing such things as the old fashioned thermostats in trash either. Education and convenience would go a long way from alleviating this problem. It takes me a good 40-45 minute round trip drive (and mostly highway) to get to a facility to dispose off such things. That itself would discourage a lot of people.
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Old 08-23-2011, 10:26 AM
 
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Where do you think the maintenance workers toss the big long fluorescents in supermarkets and chain stores?I see them curb side for reg trash day pick up.
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Old 08-23-2011, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Concord, NC
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A question to the OP and anyone else who wants to chime in....

How did you dispose of your defective CFL bulbs?

But please don't post the EPA's guidelines, I am aware of them.
They go into the trash can.
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Old 08-23-2011, 04:40 PM
 
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I started swapping to CFL's when they first started becoming readily available. I can't remember exactly what year it was but it had to be around 2002 or 2003 or maybe a little earlier. They range in age from that time up to about a year old and I have only had to replace a couple of the very first one's I installed in heavily used lights. I have had very good results with them and they use much less electricity.

All of mine are name brand, either GE or sylvania and I haven't had any issues some of you are reporting. If yours are going bad quickly you most likely have an electrical issue you your home's wiring or your incoming power is susceptible to surges or higher than normal voltage. No one I know that already uses CFL's has had any problems.

As for Texas passing special legislation, Federal law always trumps state and local law so if the Government/EPA wants to push it; they will just cut some federal funding to Texas until they comply and that will be that. They could also put pressure on the manufacturers or fine them depending on how the federal law is written. I don't really see GE giving the feds the finger just to sell a few cheap bulbs in Texas. It will be interesting to see how that all sorts out.
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Old 08-23-2011, 06:53 PM
 
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As for Texas passing special legislation, Federal law always trumps state and local law so if the Government/EPA wants to push it; they will just cut some federal funding to Texas until they comply and that will be that. They could also put pressure on the manufacturers or fine them depending on how the federal law is written. I don't really see GE giving the feds the finger just to sell a few cheap bulbs in Texas. It will be interesting to see how that all sorts out.
Obviously you missed the following in the article:

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Old 08-23-2011, 07:54 PM
 
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Since 2005 in my house. Most bulbs are from then. If I were having the problem as you claim to, I wouldn't be replacing the dead old ones with new.
Claim to? Sheesh, what is with people always having to insinuate something? But I'm not the only one with problems with CFLs, Wired Magazine has a long article in it's latest issue about LEDs and their growing popularity, mainly because people just don't like CFLs...here, from Wired.

But problems of dimming, flicker, and light color remained. And manufacturer claims of bulb lifetime and quality were wildly exaggerated. Consumers didn’t understand that CFLs burn out rapidly when they’re not allowed to rest at least 15 minutes between being cycled off and on, or that they’d overheat and fail if they were used in recessed ceiling canisters; they weren’t told that there was no standard definition of what a 60-, 75-, or 100-watt incandescent replacement actually was.

They also discuss shoddy CFL manufacturing and that CFLs are horrible, flickery, ugly, and unreliable....here you go - The Future of Light Is the LED | Magazine

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