Is is just me, or has the puget sound become a cesspool?

[Adrian71]

Originally Posted by mkarch

Northern Virginia is far more tame.

Far more tame? I lived there for six years, and I'd say that in terms of safety, NoVa and Puget Sound are pretty comparable. Even NoVa had some sketchy parts, like Annandale, parts of Falls Church, or the Landmark area outside Alexandria.

On the other hand, Seattle doesn't border a truly scary and dangerous place like Southeast D.C.

All told, I've never felt afraid for my safety either in NoVa or here, but I'd still take Puget Sound over NoVa.

[eskercurve]

Originally Posted by waviking24

Lol @ ghetto in western washington

+1

Go to the near south and west sides in Chicago, where there are OPEN AIR DRUG MARKETS IN BROAD DAYLIGHT AND REPORTED BY THE BBC. Thencome back when you say there's anything remotely close to it here.

[greenlite]

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Therefore i dont see how u can compare puget sound to anyth like this...its war over there. They send troops to fight terrorists overseas while we got em right here in our streets...

[satchseven]

Originally Posted by Tac-Sea

Perhaps Lakeland South is a good middle ground. No bus routes in any neighborhood I've seen there (although I am sure there are SOME somewhere along a major road) but still close enough to conveniences compared to buying 10 acres in North Bend to get away...

Tacoma has more crime than Los Angeless (look up the safety/crime index online, tacoma is a 2 while LA is 27, on a scale where 100 is the safest!). And I have been to LA, Miami, NY, Chicago, etc. many times. I felt safer in most parts of those towns than I do the puget sound. The true ghettos there may be far worse than here, but it seems like they are in very few areas.

Here it seems like almost anywhere you go it is so crowded with unsavory characters that I feel like Kirkland is the only place that is safe for now...but last I heard they were trying to lift the ban on section 8 housing, so we shall see...

this area is not dangerous,i have lived in 8 big cities.you have to look for trouble here other places trouble finds you.if you had real crime the cops would be too busy dealing with that stuff than getting into the bs they do in seattle.you never hear about all the brutality mess in the big high crime cities they are too busy dealing with real killers

[satchseven]

Originally Posted by UrbanAdventurer

Actually there are some areas of the Puget Sound region that are still kind of rough/ghetto...same type of uneducated hood mentality you'll find in any major American metro area. I grew up in the Renton/Kent/South King County area back in the 90's so it's not like I'm talking out of my as* here.

i think you are i have lived in the hood i grew up in baltimore and lived in 7 other big cities the so-called ghetto here is a joke .please go to north philly you want to see a scary place.

[satchseven]

Originally Posted by Blondebaerde

Indeed. Lot of them up in Juanita for less than $500K, mostly condos but a few houses that don't look like they're about to fall down. In fact some of them look rather nice, if not ultra-modern per se.

Still, what OP is alluding to about Kirkland does have a nugget of truth: median for homes in some neighborhoods is pretty darn expensive, per Zillow. $500K won't cut the mustard.

I dunno: I lived a long time in a pretty nice, though not outrageously gorgeous, townhome in Mill Creek and had no complaints about living that way, either. Cops cleared out the gang-STAHs in that area some years back, probably by using standard gang-busting techniques (arresting the leadership, interventions) which took care of that pretty effectively. Not that it was ever that big of a problem, in my observation.

yeah you still got drug dealers there who live in those $400,000 homes in mill creek do not fool yourself. they are not the outsiders coming in to sell dope they grew up there. ilived there and i knew young folks there who told me what the deal was with the heroin.who do you think is breaking in those homes there ?

[satchseven]

Originally Posted by Arushan

Some homes/yards that are unkempt, mossy roofs, chain-link fences, property crime, and car prowls, sure. And that's about as far as it goes for the most part. Cesspool? No. Ghetto? Not even close. I'd go as far as saying that the Sound area is one of the most tame in the country. Take a visit to Spokane, California, the Midwest, much of the East Coast, and you may just change your views.

i see that in middle class area in the puget sound. the worst yards i have seen in middle class areas ever in my travels in the usa

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by sawkeaton

No this is ridiculous. The cesspool problem is with the suburbs and all of that culturally blind boredom. Public Transportation and urban center development are vital in creating a more sustainable environment and interesting population

What do either of these mean?

[Bimmerfanboy]

Puget Sound is far from being a cesspool. It's economy developed in the late '80s/'90s when the tech boom was happening, so most people here work white-collar jobs and earn good money. There is a good tax base.
That's not the case in most parts of the nation. For example, I used to live in metro Detroit. That region's economy boomed over 100 years ago and had plenty of blue-collar jobs. But once those jobs moved, poverty resulted. If you cross the Detroit city limits you'll know what a cesspool looks like. It's a similar theme in my other hometown Chicago, along with many east coast cities (Philly and Baltimore especially).