Your housing woes are over!! (Seattle, Tacoma: 2013, felony, house)
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That is the weirdest thing, Seattle doesn't rival New York or San Francisco... the "lifestyle" sucks. You can't bike or take the subway to work, your central core is a ghost town at 7 pm, and the food is meh.
FWIW, I can bike to work (could even run to work), and a quarter of the people I know at work do bike to work. I can take the train with either a quick bus transfer or a 15 minute walk or 7 minute Lime/Spin/Ofo bike ride to my workplace. It's the International District, so if you're into authentic Asian cuisine, it's a foodie's paradise, and some places are open until 2 AM! The bars in Pioneer Square are a ten minute walk away, and Capitol Hill is a half hour walk or a quick Uber or train ride away. Now the civic center area does go dead in the evening, but not the retail core and the area around Pike Place (lots of tourists, but still, it's by no means a ghost town). It's not New York, but it's plenty for me and for many.
Now I'm NOT saying this is typical for everyone in every neighborhood, even among those living in Seattle city limits it's a minority, but to say one "can't" is a bit exaggerating. People are paying upwards of $2k/1br or dealing with room mates for a reason! There almost has to be some draw in order to get enough people to pay these rents, which naturally attracts more development, which more often than not overshoots the demand causing a bubble burst or a deflation. Remains to see how many condo conversions happen and much of this spills over to the condo sales market, especially in Town where condos are very limited to begin with. Though the single family market is pretty much isolated from all this.
FWIW, I can bike to work (could even run to work), and a quarter of the people I know at work do bike to work. I can take the train with either a quick bus transfer or a 15 minute walk or 7 minute Lime/Spin/Ofo bike ride to my workplace. It's the International District, so if you're into authentic Asian cuisine, it's a foodie's paradise, and some places are open until 2 AM! The bars in Pioneer Square are a ten minute walk away, and Capitol Hill is a half hour walk or a quick Uber or train ride away. Now the civic center area does go dead in the evening, but not the retail core and the area around Pike Place (lots of tourists, but still, it's by no means a ghost town). It's not New York, but it's plenty for me and for many.
Now I'm NOT saying this is typical for everyone in every neighborhood, even among those living in Seattle city limits it's a minority, but to say one "can't" is a bit exaggerating. People are paying upwards of $2k/1br or dealing with room mates for a reason! There almost has to be some draw in order to get enough people to pay these rents, which naturally attracts more development, which more often than not overshoots the demand causing a bubble burst or a deflation. Remains to see how many condo conversions happen and much of this spills over to the condo sales market, especially in Town where condos are very limited to begin with. Though the single family market is pretty much isolated from all this.
Dude, I love this place called "Ranch 99" by my friends place in Portland... 5 dollar Dim Sum, the cuttlefish and ducks hanging from hooks and all that. It is my new favorite place in Portland. The best things Seattle has over Portland is an International district that isn't just a bunch of meat market bars. Heck, I'm kicking myself for not going there sooner to assuage my fears that Seattle is hopeless.
Anyways, yes, people are paying 2K for a 1 bdrm, and the jobs are there. But, I'm from Portland, and I've seen the buses full of dreaming youngsters escaping Midwest hell holes. They aren't buying 2K 1 bdrms, unless they stack em 5 high. (And, that sure does happen, after talking to some landlords in West Seattle.. crazy kids). I would argue that, those people have a tough time evaluating value. NYC, SF, sure, welcome to the jungle kid. Your going to make it after all! Hollywood lights...etc...etc....et al. But Seattle? Aww hell no... ain't no chance I'm going to be a movie star or mobster in Seattle. No chance I'm even going to strike it rich like Vegas. Heck, I can't even develop a ridiculous accent in Seattle.
Maybe it is a hiring freeze, maybe it's Trump.. but there is slowdown in the Real Estate market. I even seen flipboards up in Portland this weekend. Seems that the escaping masses, yearning to breathe free, are staying home. A pet theory is, because we've hit super employment, they aren't escaping to find jobs. They can stay put and not be economic migrants, and the deal of 15 an hour to sleep 5 deep in a 1 bdrm isn't so appealing.
Ultimately, the problem is, Seattle is not a world class city. No matter how much you want to believe Amazon makes you important. It ain't Broadway, Hollywood, Bollywood, whatever London has, the Louvre... your a big, quirky city, act like it! Also, for the love of all that is good and right, build some tunnels.. Want to be SF? They dug a tunnel for the BART decades ago. Boston.. big dig... New York, digging since 1800's. If you even want to come close to rivaling a bigger city... just suck it up and dig. Your leaders lack vision, and forethought.
We have two Downtown rail tunnels and are planning a third. That's progress. We're also move a Downtown freeway into a tunnel. The voters passed a $54 billion transit measure that includes lots of tunnels. It's happening.
You still haven't addressed how your theory (doesn't) align with our constant population growth since 1971.
Ultimately, the problem is, Seattle is not a world class city. No matter how much you want to believe Amazon makes you important. It ain't Broadway, Hollywood, Bollywood, whatever London has, the Louvre... your a big, quirky city, act like it! Also, for the love of all that is good and right, build some tunnels.. Want to be SF? They dug a tunnel for the BART decades ago. Boston.. big dig... New York, digging since 1800's. If you even want to come close to rivaling a bigger city... just suck it up and dig. Your leaders lack vision, and forethought.
This we can both agree on! Vancouver is much closer.
Nobody thought America's #1 boom town named Detroit could ever bust. Why is Seattle so immune? Seattle is banking big on tech and industrial industries. However, tech is one of those industries that can be very easily relocated. Computers, microchips, servers, nerds can be quickly relocated anywhere in the country and be operating in days, if not hours. As far as Seattle's industrial base, it's shrinking and most of it is moving to other parts of USA (think Boeing) or overseas (like China). Seattle's psychotic communist government and now the entire state of Washington are pretty much doing everything they can to lure more leftist socialist types , homeless people, illegals, drug addicts and they are declaring war on hard-working folks, gun owners, business owners, military families and all others who are against the Stalinist/Crazy Leftist decrees that this state is trying to push forward.
Soon you will not be able to own a gun and 90% of your income will be redistributed to poor, homeless drug addicts and illegal aliens who need your money more than you do. As well, your gun rights will be stripped from you and only Washington SS and SA will have access to firearms, as well as the drug cartels and drug mafias here who also help finance these politicians. Meth/Heroin is a booming trade here in Washington and brings in more revenue than purple sugared soda and has no funky taxes attached to them. Can you believe it?
Seattle will eventually be left to the hordes of criminals and homeless people who will one day ransack all the rich elitists in the city and chase them out like The Walking Dead. The only left will be in secured gated facilities with armed guards. Does this sound like a city we know of somewhere in the Midwest that once was referred to as Motor Town? Yes, Detroit...
Rotse. Rotse. Seattleites might be a little blinded by our progressive views at times but we aren't stupid. No one in their right mind who lives here wants to give away 90 percent of their income or see their city become unlivable. You make it sound like a hellhole. It's far from that, come on. There are a lot of smart powerful people here making a very good living. Economic adjustments are natural but when they happen, they will be based on the overall national economy (certainly trump's tax plan could hurt-ill give you that) and not sudden chaos that befalls Seattle.
Nobody thought America's #1 boom town named Detroit could ever bust. Why is Seattle so immune? Seattle is banking big on tech and industrial industries. However, tech is one of those industries that can be very easily relocated. Computers, microchips, servers, nerds can be quickly relocated anywhere in the country and be operating in days, if not hours. As far as Seattle's industrial base, it's shrinking and most of it is moving to other parts of USA (think Boeing) or overseas (like China). Seattle's psychotic communist government and now the entire state of Washington are pretty much doing everything they can to lure more leftist socialist types , homeless people, illegals, drug addicts and they are declaring war on hard-working folks, gun owners, business owners, military families and all others who are against the Stalinist/Crazy Leftist decrees that this state is trying to push forward.
Soon you will not be able to own a gun and 90% of your income will be redistributed to poor, homeless drug addicts and illegal aliens who need your money more than you do. As well, your gun rights will be stripped from you and only Washington SS and SA will have access to firearms, as well as the drug cartels and drug mafias here who also help finance these politicians. Meth/Heroin is a booming trade here in Washington and brings in more revenue than purple sugared soda and has no funky taxes attached to them. Can you believe it?
Seattle will eventually be left to the hordes of criminals and homeless people who will one day ransack all the rich elitists in the city and chase them out like The Walking Dead. The only left will be in secured gated facilities with armed guards. Does this sound like a city we know of somewhere in the Midwest that once was referred to as Motor Town? Yes, Detroit...
I totally disagree with most of your statement. But I did live in Detroit in 2014, in a 1000 dollar home for 3 months (I'm from Portland, how could housing costs go down? Madness...) Anyways, your right that no one really expected motor-city to fall apart, and they did have corrupt democratic leadership (Libertarians in Warren, Grosse Pointe, and suburbs went full on zero taxes and will soon pay a price for letting Detroit fall apart. Ironically, the city is fleeing itself, and the burbs lead the charge)
Now, Seattle is similar, in that they believe that it is impossible. They don't do mass transit (Motorcity, you know, big roads, lots of them). And they generally have a close to mono-economy (Boeing, MSFT, Amazon, one of those really bails and it will crush the economy).
Also, I might add Detroit is a beautiful, grand city. With an excellent art Museum. I'm not sure much of the arts and culture flourish, but they have some good schools MSU/Wayne State. Detroit is way cooler than Seattle. Even with the gunfights, hordes of squatters, and the tax revolt (2000 per year on my 1000 dollar house). It also has failing/miserable services and permit process that was over valued (2000 a pop for electrical/mechanical/roofing). But you can't put a value on grit, solidarity, and hometown pride.
I secretly hope HQ2 goes to Baltimore or Detroit. They would welcome the influx and increase in housing prices like no other city. Baltimore has the added proximity to Washington DC and the Maryland middle class.
I flew through DTW yesterday, and though I had rough memories of escaping Detroit when my car drowned on 8 mile, and my dreams of pioneering Detroit ended poorly. But, I can't deny, "Detroit Hustles harder." Is a perfect slogan for city ready for a rebound.
Everyone has a spin on Detroit, but it is way more complex than anyone tells you. One of my favorite interactions was with a D:Hive activist
Activist "I love Detroit!"
Me "O yeah, where do you live? I got a home on Pelkey near 8 mile"
Activist "Grosse Pointe"
Me Silently staring and walking away...
I don't know what you totally disagree with what I wrote. I'm not sure if you disagree with the fact that Seattle and Washington state government's suicidal policies of taxing people to death, stripping them of their 2nd Amendment rights and accommodating all the homeless, drug addicts and other freeloaders around the country will eventually bring about the demise of the city. Or, if you are disagreeing with the fact that I think Detroit is a sh*thole. If it is the former, then we agree to disagree. If it is the latter, I apologize for insulting a city that you admire, as it seems you do from your last post. I know many Detroit lovers and Detroit does have nice suburbs. Why should those Libertarians in Warren, Grosse Pointe, etc be responsible for the corruption, greed, mismanagement, gang warfare and general disrespect for humanity and their own community of the city of Detroit?
It seems people love blaming everyone else but themselves. That is the new phenomenon, these days to find fault with somebody else and blame them for all your own woes. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...risis/2929137/
Anyhow, if you think I am damaging Detroit's reputation by comparing it to Seattle, then how about I compare Seattle to Havana, Cuba before and after communism?
Life in Havana before Castro
Life in Havana after Castro with full Socialism Implemented
Cuba's Magnificent Free Socialized Health Care
Havana Hospital Bathroom
We have two Downtown rail tunnels and are planning a third. That's progress. We're also move a Downtown freeway into a tunnel. The voters passed a $54 billion transit measure that includes lots of tunnels. It's happening.
You still haven't addressed how your theory (doesn't) align with our constant population growth since 1971.
Every city has experienced intense growth in the last 2 decades (besides a few notable exceptions in the rust belt). In fact, city growth and urbanization will probably be mentioned in future history books.
I'm not talking silly little moving I5 in the central core (For whatever reason, nobody lives or goes there). I'm talking long subway or raised line. I'm talking tunneling to Bremerten. I'm talking, big, future proof projects that take vision and engineering. (They built a tunnel from France to England, don't tell me we can't in 2018 with all the great engineers in Seattle).
I remember when Oregon tried negotiating with Washington about a bridge across the Willamette to serve Vancouver, WA citizens (you know, Portland in WA). And Washington refused to pay anything for it.
Just reminded me that Washington really hates infrastructure spending..they prefer to let the market "solve" things. Probably because they make money from property taxes, not per head from income.
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Yes, Detroit...
