Just convinced my 5th Seattleite to not get the vaccine!! What have you done lately? (murders, drive-in)

[Diana Holbrook]

Originally Posted by flyingsaucermom

Trump made it LOUD and CLEAR that it was HIS administration that rolled out the mass distribution of vaccine. And on the Dori Monson show there was at some point lots of references to Harris and Biden BOTH saying they wouldn’t “trust” a vaccine developed by the Trump. Clearly before they took office and had to manage the crisis themselves. This was a discussion about why Blacks wouldn’t trust the government. He made the argument that if Biden had really wanted to get everyone on board and that if this were really the ultimate public health emergency that Biden would have joined with Trump and done some sort of public service announcement together and maybe add in some religious figures and popular rappers.

I never agreed more.

Yeah - I agree! What I'm reading up there ^ is nothing but revisionist nonsense. Trump was ALL in on this vaccine, and is the one who bragged it would be ready within the year and set up all the production so massive numbers of doses would already be ready when it was approved. Everyone else poo poo'ed his pie in the sky promises about the vaccine.

It was Harris and Biden who expressed fear and doubt about Trump's vaccine.

I bet Trump would have helped promote the vaccine, even after the election, but Biden won't even mention his name. It is Biden who won't let him have an ounce of credit or limelight, or even social media accounts.

Love him or hate him, Trump deserves the credit for expediting these vaccines, and I am also hearing that it is NOT Trump supporters who are the biggest holdouts now.

[zerp]

Originally Posted by homesinseattle

Nope, that's not true. Trump and his extended crew MASSIVELY affected his followers willingness to not get vaccines. This gave the virus ample host bodies to mutate on and become stronger. Imagine if Trump from Day 1 would have been strongly all in about getting vaccines, imagine if he would have used his guile and rage to scream at any person who hinted that they weren't getting a vaccine. We would be more than 80 percent vaccinated, many lives would have been saved.

1) Influenza virus mutates constantly. That is why there is a new shot yearly. Coronaviruses have always been the same.
2) Current variant that is dominant worldwide is the Delta (India) variant. It was first detected in October 2020. That is pre-vaccine rollout.
3) Did you miss the story about Cape Cod? Supposedly 74% of the “cases” are vaccinated people.
4) Vaccines weren’t widely available until late winter/early spring 2021.
5) Vaccines as a treatment would be more accepted if leftist government officials weren’t pushing it so hard, to the point of being threatening. #5 is really scary, in fact. Especially when the survival rate for those under the 60-69 age bracket is incredibly good.

[primaltech]

Sorry, what are we arguing about? Is the pandemic over, yet?

[usernametaken]

Getting started:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ee-people.html

Originally Posted by primaltech

Sorry, what are we arguing about? Is the pandemic over, yet?

[homesinseattle]

This is an article that I think articulates better what both sides are trying to say. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox...19-coronavirus

[usernametaken]

More good news for PFE:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pfizer-mo...114533641.html

Originally Posted by usernametaken

Pfizer CEO said last week that vaccine efficacy drops 4-6 months after second dose. As was planned/expected. No matter your vaccine stance, worth purchasing Pfizer stock in case they can make this into a 50 year business. Disclosure: I own some.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...ix-months.html

[usernametaken]

If the US (and some continental European countries) wanted to see higher vaccine intake rates, they should have promoted Dr. Kim rather than Fauci or any of their other CNN-approved scare mongering scientists.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=CJ3Yk01zWu8

I do not buy Dr. Kim's implications that science is always so great and precise. However, his demeanor is very sincere, modest, non-threatening and non-fame-driven. At least I want to listen to him despite being anti-vax.

That Asian Boss channel has 4 prior interviews of him, including the first one from March 2020:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAk7aX5hksU

[dav51lin]

Originally Posted by primaltech

Sorry, what are we arguing about? Is the pandemic over, yet?

not anytime soon maybe years

[elkotronics]

The Illuminati are toying with all of us. Just ignore them and they won't go away. I know someone who is going to blast them to Kingdom come, though. Oh yeah.

I can't wait, actually.

[usernametaken]

1 Covid death in Australia below age 30.

6 Covid deaths in Australia below age 50.

Vaccination rate of 15%. Way too high if you ask me.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/dat...t-hit-by-covid