smoke-looks like it has arrived (Sammamish: quality, rain, free)

[zerp]

Hell yeah.

It’s the new normal.

Give it a few more years and there won’t be anymore fires because there won’t be any forests to burn!

[509]

Originally Posted by zerp

Hell yeah.

It’s the new normal.

Give it a few more years and there won’t be anymore fires because there won’t be any forests to burn!

Nope, it will be at least three decades at a minimum. Professional opinion.

[rjshae]

After enough forest patches have burned, what's left of the woods will develop herd immunity...






Kidding.

[dozerbear]

Originally Posted by zerp

Hell yeah.

It’s the new normal.

Give it a few more years and there won’t be anymore fires because there won’t be any forests to burn!

Or we could start managing public lands the way Native American tribes do, and not have such destructive fires.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...hts-wildfires/

https://www.washingtonpolicy.org/pub...le-reservation

But, "environmentalists" don't like that, so they file lawsuits to stop thinning and salvage work, and everything gets over crowded, ladder fuels build up and trees become more susceptible to bug infestation, and start dying. Then a fire starts....

https://californiapolicycenter.org/e...rnias-forests/

https://californiaglobe.com/section-...s-preventable/

And after decades of telling us spotted owls have to have old growth to survive, now even salvaging standing dead timber is bad, because it will hurt the owls somehow.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-fire-logging/

[leastprime]

Finished, just in time, the adapters to a single hose portable AC, making a two hose AC. The air to remove condenser coils' heat is now from outside air (new hose) and is exhausted to the outside on existing hose. No more makeup air from the outside which greatly reduced AC cooling efficiency.

[Flightoficarus87]

So far, the west side of the mountains has been incredibly lucky this year as far as smoke goes, especially considering the June heat dome event and how dry it's been.

I have a bad feeling that luck might finally start to run out late this week though, with highs poised to climb back into the 90s and loss of the onshore flow of marine air. August is also when wildfire season really begins to get going.

[509]

Originally Posted by dozerbear

Or we could start managing public lands the way Native American tribes do, and not have such destructive fires.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...hts-wildfires/

https://www.washingtonpolicy.org/pub...le-reservation

But, "environmentalists" don't like that, so they file lawsuits to stop thinning and salvage work, and everything gets over crowded, ladder fuels build up and trees become more susceptible to bug infestation, and start dying. Then a fire starts....

https://californiapolicycenter.org/e...rnias-forests/

https://californiaglobe.com/section-...s-preventable/

And after decades of telling us spotted owls have to have old growth to survive, now even salvaging standing dead timber is bad, because it will hurt the owls somehow.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-fire-logging/

Right.....Camas roots for dinner and acorns for breakfast. Those are the reasons Indians burned the forests.

Senator Cantwell of Washington state and the environmental movement have destroyed millions of acres of public land. Thousands of homes, and hundreds of lives, while spending billions in taxpayer dollars fighting the fires.

REALLY FOLKS....as a Professional Forester for 50 years.

You need to start electing people with COMMON SENSE. You voted Clinton, Obama and Biden into office. Inslee in Washington state, Katie Brown in Oregon and Newsome in California.

I get the liberal politics, but are not there LIBERAL politicians with common sense when it come to wildland fires??

Vote for them.

[flyingsaucermom]

Originally Posted by 509

Nope, it will be at least three decades at a minimum. Professional opinion.

Professional opinion or professional's opinion?

And you really think it could (only) take 3 decades?

[509]

Originally Posted by flyingsaucermom

Professional opinion or professional's opinion?

And you really think it could (only) take 3 decades?

Sorry, English is my fourth language. I will leave the grammar to you.

The mess really started in 1992 with the election of President Clinton.

Senator Cantwell in really was the "acceralent" in the mega-fires when she and Senator Murray took away "governmental immunity" from Federal employees fighting fire.

In the Tyee Fire of 1994, the Forest Service made the decision that they would pull out when the fire reached Shamel Creek, part of the 1970 fires. No point in killing firefighters to save the summer homes of Seattle residents.

Today's fires leave a burned forest of snags standing upright. Once those snags start falling down they become the fuel bed for the NEXT generation of fires.

Today's fires will repeat in 30 years as the snags fall down and become part of the ground fuel bed.

It is probably going to be longer than that. Really Senator Cantwell, President Biden , and others have no interest in reducing the fire hazard.

You need a consensus on managing wildfires.

Lots of talk from the Democrats....little action and when it happens they kill any common sense approach to the problem. BTW...the Republicans don't have a clue either and President Bush gave up and let Senator Cantwell roll him on the issue in the early 2000's. Senator Cantwell killed the Healthy Forests Initiative by President Bush....and we were off to another 30 years of smoke, homes lost, and National Forest lands devasted.

The problem is REALLY serious and will take decades to solve.

Yes, you cannot log your way out of this problem. But there is no PUBLIC lands timber industry LEFT. The environmental community destroyed those family businesses, leaving it to Weyerhauser and the mega-corporations.

We have NOT even taken the first steps toward solving the problem.

Yep, 30 years....maybe more thanks to Senator Cantwell.

[41Willys]

Thursday and Friday were perfect blue skies!