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Again you are making conclusions about me. You only missed throwing in the "your liberal friends" sticker! Just because you are living a comfortable life does not mean you are in debt. Quite the contrary actually.
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Ah, doggonit! I knew I forgot something! The liberal friends thing...
My neighbor has a sewing business. She makes costumes for local theater people. It took her years to build that business up and requires state of the art equipment that requires electricity in order to operate it. You cannot do that from a van. You cannot do that sewing by hand. In the OP's original post she stated she wanted to exchange "time" for a hot meal, a bath and a place to sleep. What does that have to do with sewing? And now a child? Something doesn't add up here.
All she needs is one knock on the window of her van one night from a cop while she and her child are asleep in a residential neighborhood or parking lot of a building. If he discovers she and a minor have been sleeping in a van without a home I have a feeling Child and Services will get into the picture.
I know a guy who was a goof off till he was 38.
Then went to trucking school.
First time in his life he doesn't have to depend on hand outs.
He likes it....gee, who knew?
Why is it that we assume if one does not have 2.5 kids, a McMansion with a Lexus in the circle driveway, and a dog inside the white picket fence, that one is living off "hand outs"?
I can make money on a job and live in the backseat of a Yugo, for crying out loud. With today's technology, living in a van and making money is not hard at all. All one needs is a computer with wireless. Instant job. No need for the white toast customary manacles that everyone assumes they need and everyone else tells them they must want. All that money which would have been necessary to sustain the institutionalized excess would suddenly become unnecessary. Those hours of life that were wasted would not have to be wasted.
Is it so hard to understand that some people are not interested in living your lifestyle?
Why is it that we assume if one does not have 2.5 kids, a McMansion with a Lexus in the circle driveway, and a dog inside the white picket fence, that one is living off "hand outs"?
Chris you seem to be either black or white. It's either **** poor, working the land like in the 1800s or a McMansion and Lexus.
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I can make money on a job and live in the backseat of a Yugo, for crying out loud. With today's technology, living in a van
You can't out of a Yugo. It would have fallen apart after 3 months or 3,000 miles, whichever comes first
The time has come where to live the lifestyle she wants she has to be rich and/or debt free plus substantial savings.
Even the sodbusters and homesteaders lived in sod houses that leaked and were cold etc. It was a HARSH life. Living out of a back of a van would be no different. You would have to exhaust all your other options in society to put up with that. Or you are in your 20s or 30s, no obligations, no debt and not a care in the world. Even that would get old after 6 months to a year. But with young children and no obvious way to make money? I'll tell you what would happen - the 12yr old would get sick and would most likely end up at someone's doorstep.
Why is it that we assume if one does not have 2.5 kids, a McMansion with a Lexus in the circle driveway, and a dog inside the white picket fence, that one is living off "hand outs"?
I can make money on a job and live in the backseat of a Yugo, for crying out loud. With today's technology, living in a van and making money is not hard at all. All one needs is a computer with wireless. Instant job. No need for the white toast customary manacles that everyone assumes they need and everyone else tells them they must want. All that money which would have been necessary to sustain the institutionalized excess would suddenly become unnecessary. Those hours of life that were wasted would not have to be wasted.
Is it so hard to understand that some people are not interested in living your lifestyle?
You are too quick to take offense. The poster to whom you were responding above said he knows the guy he was telling about. To me that means that when he says the guy had been living on handouts before becoming a truck driver at age 38, it is something he knows because he knows the individual. No one was accusing you personally of living on handouts because you have chosen a non-traditional lifestyle.
I think that poster raised an excellent point, although I would be quick to agree the point has nothing to do with you personally. In my view, that point is: For some (many?) people, all the talk about rejecting the "wage slave" life, yadda, yadda, yadda, is a euphemistic cover-up for their own laziness and dysfunctionality, because at the same time they are espousing their lofty principles they have their hand out to parents, siblings, cousins, friends, church soup kitchens/various give-away programs, and perhaps the taxpayers. Remember - this is not you I am describing, Chris!
That doesn't sound fun to live out of a van. At least get a small camper/rv, so you can feel like you're at home. I don't see the cost savings of having to trade time or sewing for a place to shower/sleep/use the restroom. Also, with a windowed van, you have to think about someone breaking a window. If it's left parked where someone thinks there is stuff inside, someone will eventually smash a window.
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Just because you are living a comfortable life does not mean you are in debt. Quite the contrary actually.
