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You can't stop it. All this quarantine stuff is nonsense. The only thing they are accomplishing now is crashing the economy. The disease is not the problem. Its the panic. From looking at the statistics, I don't think this will ever be a big deal. Maybe as bad as the flu, but not worse.
I agree, I understand that it's about saving lives, but at what cost? Is life worth living when the economy has crashed? When your retirement is screwed? Because that's where we're headed.
Would you rather risk catching the virus and getting a 14 day quarantine or lose your job and risk getting evicted? Most healthy people under 70 would choose the latter.
I give it 3-4 months before everyone says "Ok no more shutting down the economy, just wash your hands and practice social distancing."
... Do any of you remember the SARS epidemic here in the USA , Canada, and other places around the globe? ...
I clipped out all of the disinformation from your article.
Yes, I remember SARS very well.
This virus plays by a different set of rules, and China knew it,
when they started this disinformation campaign.
Nice to see you are still comparing apples to prune juice.
No, a window screen will not stop prune juice from flowing thorough it.
So why have the case numbers of COVID-19 already surpassed those of SARS by Jan 30, 2020?
First, the situation is different. Wuhan, the epicentre of COVID-19, combines multiple elements that make containment challenging...
... A second explanation might be that the infectious period is different. Isolation was effective for SARS because peak viral shedding occurred after patients were already quite ill with respiratory symptoms and could be easily identified. ...
... A third explanation could be that the transmissibility might be higher for COVID-19 than for SARS...
... A fourth explanation is that the clinical spectrum is different. China's initial case definition was focused on pneumonia, and initial case fatality rates (CFR) were reported at about 10% on the basis of this narrow case definition...
... A fifth explanation is that community spread is more prominent. Whereas SARS was mainly an outbreak propagated within hospitals, widespread community transmission is already evident for COVID-19.
There is NO COMPARISON between SARS and COVID-19 for the above reasons. SARS burned itself out largely because it caused illness or killed before it could spread.
SARS in 2003 was stopped because of strict quarantine and tracking. Neither of which happened here. I was listening to Dr, Ryan from WHO talk about how they tracked 25,000 people a day in a war zone to shut down an Ebola outbreak.
Did you reads the CDC timeline of SARS in 2003?
I found an interesting article in the Toronto Sun: ' Deadly virus Looking back at Toronto's SARS outbreak. " Unfortunately there was a second wave.
WHO has a book about the SARS outbreak. SARS: how a global epidemic was stopped.
In this article about the book three lessons should have been learned.
1. Transparency is the best policy. "Some of the affected countries did not acknowledge openly and squarely the presence of SARS, downplayed its extent (Don't test keep the numbers low) and attempted to prove it was something else. (Rush, its just a cold. Only 15 cases will be zero, warm weather will kill it. It's a Democrat hoax to bring down Trump's presidency.)
2. "Twenty first century science played a relatively small roll in controlling SARS, nineteenth century techniques continued to prove their value. In 2003 there was unprecedented collaboration between scientists (oh wait ours were fired in 2018)
3 Talks about animal husbandry and marketing practices. Maybe Trump could switch gears on the trade war and get China to change its ways? This has been by far the biggest threat to our economy than a trade imbalance.
Look, like it or not, Trump knew this was coming in December. If WHO can track 25,000 people in a war zone during an Ebola outbreak, we should have been able to stop this before it became a pandemic. The CDC had boots on the ground in 25 countries vs 10 now. If you take away funding from an agency designed to keep us safe during times like this, and if you don't heed WHO's warning that this is going to be the new norm, if you lie to the rubes and they believe you and they go out and spread it like wild fire because they won't self isolate, if you slow walk testing and reject a test WHO approved and was used world wide, If you take action when it's too late because you are willing to gamble with the economy and people's lives because you think your gut is always right? How much more do you need before you stop trying to defend the indispensable?
SARS in 2003 was stopped because of strict quarantine and tracking. (snip)
Did you reads the CDC timeline of SARS in 2003?
I found an interesting article in the Toronto Sun: ' Deadly virus Looking back at Toronto's SARS outbreak. " Unfortunately there was a second wave.
WHO has a book about the SARS outbreak. SARS: how a global epidemic was stopped.
In this article about the book three lessons should have been learned.
1. Transparency is the best policy. (snip).
I snipped out all the stuff that was incorrect.
Simple communist propaganda, that you mindlessly regurgitate daily.
Transparency is the best policy, so, why did China try to hide it,
refuse to allow people from our CDC into the affected region,
push a false narrative that Trump cut the CDC, and then
send people like you to try to cover up for their crimes?
Transparency demands that you answer those questions,
or at least tell us why you are here spreading communist propaganda?
I snipped out all the stuff that was incorrect.
Simple communist propaganda, that you mindlessly regurgitate daily.
Transparency is the best policy, so, why did China try to hide it,
refuse to allow people from our CDC into the affected region,
push a false narrative that Trump cut the CDC, and then
send people like you to try to cover up for their crimes?
Transparency demands that you answer those questions,
or at least tell us why you are here spreading communist propaganda?
Even if China did all that
Trump DID cut CDC funding
They were pulling the ONE US representative in China who had a chance to monitor pandemics—
Were closing her out in Sept and she left earlier of her own accord so was not in place to give warning
Of course the intelligence services knew about the coming epidemic and TOLD THE PRESIDENT
He didn’t care
Didn’t want to hear it
Had no idea how NOT being proactive would rebound on him and the economy and his chances of election
"Trump DID cut CDC funding". First and foremost, no President has the ability to "cut funding" because the constitution clearly puts the spending authority onto the legislative branch. Presidents can propose budgets and either veto them or sign them into law but he can't actually make a budget. He never vetoed a budget because of any CDC issue and even if he did the legislative branch could override his veto.
With the CDC spending money on transgender beauty pageants, obesity, zen Asian gardens, gun control, helmet laws, racism, environmental issues, etc it's clear their budget needs some "help" if it gets them back to focusing on their core mission: disease control.
You need to stop watching anything that comes from the lamestream media. Maybe read a book about how the government functions instead.
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"Trump DID cut CDC funding". First and foremost, no President has the ability to "cut funding" because the constitution clearly puts the spending authority onto the legislative branch. Presidents can propose budgets and either veto them or sign them into law but he can't actually make a budget. He never vetoed a budget because of any CDC issue and even if he did the legislative branch could override his veto.
With the CDC spending money on transgender beauty pageants, obesity, zen Asian gardens, gun control, helmet laws, racism, environmental issues, etc it's clear their budget needs some "help" if it gets them back to focusing on their core mission: disease control.
You need to stop watching anything that comes from the lamestream media. Maybe read a book about how the government functions instead.
In my honest opinion I feel like the whole world is becoming socialist by imposing these Draconian Lockdowns on every single human being, just another example that the the people power think were too stupid to do anything right. The only people that social isolate are the eldery and only those vulnerable, and btw the warmer weather and higher humidity destroys any virus period. I feel like the world is overeacting a little bit. Government has no right to tell business to shut their doors or impose social distancing. like I said before the summer weather will kill the virus.
Even if China did all that
Trump DID cut CDC funding
They were pulling the ONE US representative in China who had a chance to monitor pandemics—
Were closing her out in Sept and she left earlier of her own accord so was not in place to give warning
Of course the intelligence services knew about the coming epidemic and TOLD THE PRESIDENT
He didn’t care
Didn’t want to hear it
Had no idea how NOT being proactive would rebound on him and the economy and his chances of election
Fake News.
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Originally Posted by terracore
"Trump DID cut CDC funding". First and foremost, no President has the ability to "cut funding" because the constitution clearly puts the spending authority onto the legislative branch. Presidents can propose budgets and either veto them or sign them into law but he can't actually make a budget. He never vetoed a budget because of any CDC issue and even if he did the legislative branch could override his veto.
With the CDC spending money on transgender beauty pageants, obesity, zen Asian gardens, gun control, helmet laws, racism, environmental issues, etc it's clear their budget needs some "help" if it gets them back to focusing on their core mission: disease control.
You need to stop watching anything that comes from the lamestream media. Maybe read a book about how the government functions instead.
Good Response.
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Originally Posted by markjames68
Good Snopes link that cuts through the BS.
Yep. Even a liberal leaning site shows the B.S. for what it is:
Socialist Propaganda and Disinformation.
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Originally Posted by cml
In my honest opinion I feel like the whole world is becoming socialist by imposing these Draconian Lockdowns on every single human being, just another example that the the people power think were too stupid to do anything right. The only people that social isolate are the eldery and only those vulnerable, and btw the warmer weather and higher humidity destroys any virus period. I feel like the world is overeacting a little bit. Government has no right to tell business to shut their doors or impose social distancing. like I said before the summer weather will kill the virus.
stop trying to learn junk science from YouTube conspiracy nuts.
There is enough wrong in the world without quoting nutjobs.
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